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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] State Of The Page
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 19:58:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/UiY/08MuA/tBku@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8448beac-a119-330d-a2af-fc3531bdb930@linux.alibaba.com>

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 02:08:28AM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> On 2023/1/27 00:40, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > I'd like to do another session on how the struct page dismemberment
> > is going and what remains to be done.  Given how widely struct page is
> > used, I think there will be interest from more than just MM, so I'd
> > suggest a plenary session.
> 
> I'm interested in this topic too, also I'd like to get some idea of the
> future of the page dismemberment timeline so that I can have time to keep
> the pace with it since some embedded use cases like Android are
> memory-sensitive all the time.

As you all know, I'm absolutely amazing at project management & planning
and can tell you to the day when a feature will be ready ;-)

My goal for 2023 is to get to a point where we (a) have struct page
reduced to:

struct page {
	unsigned long flags;
	struct list_head lru;
	struct address_space *mapping;
	pgoff_t index;
	unsigned long private;
	atomic_t _mapcount;
	atomic_t _refcount;
	unsigned long memcg_data;
#ifdef LAST_CPUPID_NOT_IN_PAGE_FLAGS
	int _last_cpupid;
#endif
};

and (b) can build an allnoconfig kernel with:

struct page {
	unsigned long flags;
	unsigned long padding[5];
	atomic_t _mapcount;
	atomic_t _refcount;
	unsigned long padding2;
#ifdef LAST_CPUPID_NOT_IN_PAGE_FLAGS
	int _last_cpupid;
#endif
};

> Minor, it seems some apis still use ->lru field to chain bulk pages,
> perhaps it needs some changes as well:
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20221222124412.rpnl2vojnx7izoow@techsingularity.net
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20230214190221.1156876-2-shy828301@gmail.com

Yang Shi covered the actual (non-)use of the list version of the bulk
allocator already, but perhaps more importantly, each page allocated
by the bulk allocator is actually a separately tracked allocation.
So the obvious translation of the bulk allocator from pages to folios
is that it allocates N order-0 folios.

That may not be the best approach for all the users of the bulk allocator,
so we may end up doing something different.  At any rate, use of page->lru
isn't the problem here (yes, it's something that would need to change,
but it's not a big conceptual problem).

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-26 16:40 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] State Of The Page Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-21 16:57 ` David Howells
2023-02-21 18:08 ` Gao Xiang
2023-02-21 19:09   ` Yang Shi
2023-02-22  2:40     ` Gao Xiang
2023-02-21 19:58   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-02-22  2:38     ` Gao Xiang
2023-03-02  3:17     ` David Rientjes
2023-03-02  3:50     ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-03-02  4:03       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-02  4:16         ` Pasha Tatashin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-01-19 16:24 Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-19 20:31 ` Keith Busch
2024-01-20 14:11 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-01-21 21:00 ` David Rientjes
2024-01-21 23:14   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-21 23:31     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-01-21 23:54       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-22  0:18         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-01-24 17:51     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-01-24 17:55       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-24 19:05         ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-01-27 10:10 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-01-27 16:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-27 17:57 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-27 18:43   ` Matthew Wilcox

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