From: Chih-En Lin <shiyn.lin@gmail.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/14] Introduce Copy-On-Write to Page Table
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 03:06:39 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+vbv2O6GtlKAJll@strix-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28f1e75a-a1fc-a172-3628-83575e387f9a@redhat.com>
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 06:59:50PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 14.02.23 18:54, Chih-En Lin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > (2) break_cow_pte() can fail, which means that we can fail some
> > > > > operations (possibly silently halfway through) now. For example,
> > > > > looking at your change_pte_range() change, I suspect it's wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I should add WARN_ON() and skip the failed COW PTE.
> > >
> > > One way or the other we'll have to handle it. WARN_ON() sounds wrong for
> > > handling OOM situations (e.g., if only that cgroup is OOM).
> >
> > Or we should do the same thing like you mentioned:
> > "
> > For example, __split_huge_pmd() is currently not able to report a
> > failure. I assume that we could sleep in there. And if we're not able to
> > allocate any memory in there (with sleeping), maybe the process should
> > be zapped either way by the OOM killer.
> > "
> >
> > But instead of zapping the process, we just skip the failed COW PTE.
> > I don't think the user will expect their process to be killed by
> > changing the protection.
>
> The process is consuming more memory than it is capable of consuming. The
> process most probably would have died earlier without the PTE optimization.
>
> But yeah, it all gets tricky ...
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > (3) handle_cow_pte_fault() looks quite complicated and needs quite some
> > > > > double-checking: we temporarily clear the PMD, to reset it
> > > > > afterwards. I am not sure if that is correct. For example, what
> > > > > stops another page fault stumbling over that pmd_none() and
> > > > > allocating an empty page table? Maybe there are some locking details
> > > > > missing or they are very subtle such that we better document them. I
> > > > > recall that THP played quite some tricks to make such cases work ...
> > > >
> > > > I think that holding mmap_write_lock may be enough (I added
> > > > mmap_assert_write_locked() in the fault function btw). But, I might
> > > > be wrong. I will look at the THP stuff to see how they work. Thanks.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ehm, but page faults don't hold the mmap lock writable? And so are other
> > > callers, like MADV_DONTNEED or MADV_FREE.
> > >
> > > handle_pte_fault()->handle_pte_fault()->mmap_assert_write_locked() should
> > > bail out.
> > >
> > > Either I am missing something or you didn't test with lockdep enabled :)
> >
> > You're right. I thought I enabled the lockdep.
> > And, why do I have the page fault will handle the mmap lock writable in my mind.
> > The page fault holds the mmap lock readable instead of writable.
> > ;-)
> >
> > I should check/test all the locks again.
> > Thanks.
>
> Note that we have other ways of traversing page tables, especially, using
> the rmap which does not hold the mmap lock. Not sure if there are similar
> issues when suddenly finding no page table where there logically should be
> one. Or when a page table gets replaced and modified, while rmap code still
> walks the shared copy. Hm.
It seems like I should take carefully for the page table entry in page
fault with rmap. ;)
While the rmap code walks the page table, it will hold the pt lock.
So, maybe I should hold the old (shared) PTE table's lock in
handle_cow_pte_fault() all the time.
Thanks,
Chih-En Lin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-14 19:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-07 3:51 [PATCH v4 00/14] Introduce Copy-On-Write to Page Table Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] mm: Allow user to control COW PTE via prctl Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] mm: Add Copy-On-Write PTE to fork() Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] mm: Add break COW PTE fault and helper functions Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] mm/rmap: Break COW PTE in rmap walking Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] mm/khugepaged: Break COW PTE before scanning pte Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] mm/ksm: Break COW PTE before modify shared PTE Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] mm/madvise: Handle COW-ed PTE with madvise() Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] mm/gup: Trigger break COW PTE before calling follow_pfn_pte() Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] mm/mprotect: Break COW PTE before changing protection Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] mm/userfaultfd: Support COW PTE Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] mm/migrate_device: " Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] fs/proc: Support COW PTE with clear_refs_write Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] events/uprobes: Break COW PTE before replacing page Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] mm: fork: Enable COW PTE to fork system call Chih-En Lin
2023-02-09 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] Introduce Copy-On-Write to Page Table Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-10 2:17 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-10 16:21 ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-10 17:20 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-10 19:02 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 9:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 13:07 ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-14 13:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 15:59 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 16:30 ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-14 18:41 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 18:52 ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-14 19:17 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 16:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 17:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 17:56 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 17:54 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 17:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 19:06 ` Chih-En Lin [this message]
2023-02-14 17:23 ` Yang Shi
2023-02-14 17:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 18:25 ` Yang Shi
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