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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	joaodias@google.com, surenb@google.com, cgoldswo@codeaurora.org,
	willy@infradead.org, david@redhat.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: disable LRU pagevec during the migration temporarily
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 08:29:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YEeiYbBjefM08h18@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YEdV7Leo7MC93PlK@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 12:03:08PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 08-03-21 21:16:27, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > LRU pagevec holds refcount of pages until the pagevec are drained.
> > It could prevent migration since the refcount of the page is greater
> > than the expection in migration logic. To mitigate the issue,
> > callers of migrate_pages drains LRU pagevec via migrate_prep or
> > lru_add_drain_all before migrate_pages call.
> > 
> > However, it's not enough because pages coming into pagevec after the
> > draining call still could stay at the pagevec so it could keep
> > preventing page migration. Since some callers of migrate_pages have
> > retrial logic with LRU draining, the page would migrate at next trail
> > but it is still fragile in that it doesn't close the fundamental race
> > between upcoming LRU pages into pagvec and migration so the migration
> > failure could cause contiguous memory allocation failure in the end.
> > 
> > To close the race, this patch disables lru caches(i.e, pagevec)
> > during ongoing migration until migrate is done.
> > 
> > Since it's really hard to reproduce, I measured how many times
> > migrate_pages retried with force mode below debug code.
> 
> It would be better to explicitly state that this is about a fallback to
> a sync migration.
> 
>  
> > int migrate_pages(struct list_head *from, new_page_t get_new_page,
> > 			..
> > 			..
> > 
> > if (rc && reason == MR_CONTIG_RANGE && pass > 2) {
> >        printk(KERN_ERR, "pfn 0x%lx reason %d\n", page_to_pfn(page), rc);
> >        dump_page(page, "fail to migrate");
> > }
> > 
> > The test was repeating android apps launching with cma allocation
> > in background every five seconds. Total cma allocation count was
> > about 500 during the testing. With this patch, the dump_page count
> > was reduced from 400 to 30.
> 
> I still find these results hard to argue about because it has really no
> relation to any measurable effect for those apps you are mentioning. I
> would expect sync migration would lead to performance difference. Is
> there any?

Think about migrating 300M pages. It needs to migrate 76800 pages.
It means page migration works(unmap + copy + map) are dominant.

> 
> > It would be also useful for memory-hotplug.
> 
> This is a statment that would deserve some explanation.
> "
> The new interface is alsow useful for memory hotplug which currently
> drains lru pcp caches after each migration failure. This is rather
> suboptimal as it has to disrupt others running during the operation.
> With the new interface the operation happens only once. This is also in
> line with pcp allocator cache which are disabled for the offlining as
> well.
> "

Much better. Thanks. 

>  
> > Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
> > ---
> > * from v1 - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210302210949.2440120-1-minchan@kernel.org/
> >   * introduce __lru_add_drain_all to minimize changes - mhocko
> >   * use lru_cache_disable for memory-hotplug
> >   * schedule for every cpu at force_all_cpus
> > 
> > * from RFC - http://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20210216170348.1513483-1-minchan@kernel.org
> >   * use atomic and lru_add_drain_all for strict ordering - mhocko
> >   * lru_cache_disable/enable - mhocko
> > 
> >  include/linux/migrate.h |  6 ++-
> >  include/linux/swap.h    |  2 +
> >  mm/memory_hotplug.c     |  3 +-
> >  mm/mempolicy.c          |  6 +++
> >  mm/migrate.c            | 13 ++++---
> >  mm/page_alloc.c         |  3 ++
> >  mm/swap.c               | 82 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
> >  7 files changed, 91 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
> 
> Sorry for nit picking but I think the additional abstraction for
> migrate_prep is not really needed and we can remove some more code.
> Maybe we should even get rid of migrate_prep_local which only has a
> single caller and open coding lru draining with a comment would be
> better from code reading POV IMO.

Thanks for the code. I agree with you.
However, in this moment, let's go with this one until we conclude.
The removal of migrate_prep could be easily done after that.
I am happy to work on it.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-09 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-09  5:16 [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: disable LRU pagevec during the migration temporarily Minchan Kim
2021-03-09  5:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: fs: Invalidate BH LRU during page migration Minchan Kim
2021-03-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: disable LRU pagevec during the migration temporarily Michal Hocko
2021-03-09 16:29   ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2021-03-09 16:31     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-09 17:15       ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-09 17:54     ` Michal Hocko

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