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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>, Chao Yu <chao@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] f2fs: remove broken support for allocating DIO writes
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 21:39:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YQd3Hbid/mFm0o24@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YQS5eBljtztWwOFE@mit.edu>

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 10:46:16PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 12:17:26PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > Currently, non-overwrite DIO writes are fundamentally unsafe on f2fs as
> > > they require preallocating blocks, but f2fs doesn't support unwritten
> > > blocks and therefore has to preallocate the blocks as regular blocks.
> > > f2fs has no way to reliably roll back such preallocations, so as a
> > > result, f2fs will leak uninitialized blocks to users if a DIO write
> > > doesn't fully complete.
> 
> There's another way of solving this problem which doesn't require
> supporting unwritten blocks.  What a file system *could* do is to
> allocate the blocks, but *not* update the on-disk data structures ---
> so the allocation happens in memory only, so you know that the
> physical blocks won't get used for another files, and then issue the
> data block writes.  On the block I/O completion, trigger a workqueue
> function which updates the on-disk metadata to assign physical blocks
> to the inode.
> 
> That way if you crash before the data I/O has a chance to complete,
> the on-disk logical block -> physical block map hasn't been updated
> yet, and so you don't need to worry about leaking uninitialized blocks.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 					- Ted

Jaegeuk and Chao, any idea how feasible it would be for f2fs to do this?

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-02  4:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-28  1:51 [PATCH] f2fs: remove broken support for allocating DIO writes Eric Biggers
2021-07-30 19:17 ` Eric Biggers
2021-07-30 22:12   ` Jaegeuk Kim
2021-07-30 22:19     ` Eric Biggers
2021-07-31  1:05       ` Jaegeuk Kim
2021-07-31  1:18         ` Eric Biggers
2021-07-31  2:46   ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-08-02  4:39     ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2021-08-02  9:00       ` Chao Yu
2021-08-02 18:23         ` Jaegeuk Kim
2021-08-03  1:19           ` Chao Yu
2021-08-03  1:34             ` Jaegeuk Kim
2021-08-17  2:03               ` Eric Biggers
2021-08-17  5:42                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-17 18:57                   ` Jaegeuk Kim
2021-08-17 20:27                     ` Eric Biggers
2021-08-17 21:33                       ` Jaegeuk Kim
2021-08-18  0:06                         ` Eric Biggers
2021-08-20  9:35                 ` Chao Yu
2021-08-20 18:11                   ` Eric Biggers
2021-08-20 22:01                     ` Chao Yu

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