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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	jack@suse.com, amir73il@gmail.com, djwong@kernel.org,
	david@fromorbit.com, dhowells@redhat.com, khazhy@google.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, kernel@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 30/32] ext4: Send notifications on error
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 23:11:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YW+Iz82Tug5a2wbL@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o87lnee4.fsf@collabora.com>

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 01:54:59PM -0300, Gabriel Krisman Bertazi wrote:
> >
> > E.g. here you pass the 'error' to fsnotify. This will be just standard
> > 'errno' number, not ext4 error code as described in the documentation. Also
> > note that frequently 'error' will be 0 which gets magically transformed to
> > EFSCORRUPTED in save_error_info() in the ext4 error handling below. So
> > there's clearly some more work to do...
> 
> The many 0 returns were discussed before, around v3.  You can notice one
> of my LTP tests is designed to catch that.  We agreed ext4 shouldn't be
> returning 0, and that we would write a patch to fix it, but I didn't
> think it belonged as part of this series.

The fact that ext4 passes 0 into __ext4_error() to mean EFSCORRUPTED
is an internal implementation detail, and as currently implemented it
is *not* a bug.  It was just a convenience to minimize the number of
call sites that needed to be modified when we added the feature of
storing the error code to be stored in the superblock.

So I think this is something that should be addressed in this
patchset, and it's pretty simple to do so.  It's just a matter of
doing something like this:

      fsnotify_sb_error(sb, NULL, error ? error : EFSCORRUPTED);


> You are also right about the EXT4_ vs. errno.  the documentation is
> buggy, since it was brought from the fs-specific descriptor days, which
> no longer exists.  Nevertheless, I think there is a case for always
> returning file system specific errors here, since they are more
> descriptive.

So the history is that ext4 specific errors were used because we were
storing them in the superblock --- and so we need an architecture
independent way of storing the error codes.  (Errno codes are not
stable across architectures; and consider what might happen if we had
error codes written on an say, an ARM platform, and then that disk is
attached to an Alpha, S390, or Power system?)

> Should we agree to follow the documentation and return FS specific
> errors instead of errno, then?

I disagree.  We should use errno's, for a couple of reasons.  First of
all, users of fsnotify shouldn't need to know which file system to
interpret the error codes.

Secondly, the reason why ext4 has file system specific error cdoes is
because those codes are written into the superblock, and errno's are
not stable across different architectures.  So for ext4, we needed to
worry what might happen if the error code was written while the file
system was mounted on say, an ARM-64 system, and then storage device
might get attached to a S390, Alpha, or PA-RISC system.  This is not a
problem that the fsnotify API needs to worry about.

Finally, the error codes that we used for the ext4 superblock are
*not* more descriptive than errno's --- we only have 16 ext4-specific
error codes, and there are far more errno values.

Cheers,

					- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-20  3:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-18 23:59 [PATCH v8 00/32] file system-wide error monitoring Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 01/32] fsnotify: pass data_type to fsnotify_name() Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 02/32] fsnotify: pass dentry instead of inode data Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 03/32] fsnotify: clarify contract for create event hooks Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 04/32] fsnotify: Don't insert unmergeable events in hashtable Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 05/32] fanotify: Fold event size calculation to its own function Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 06/32] fanotify: Split fsid check from other fid mode checks Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 07/32] inotify: Don't force FS_IN_IGNORED Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 08/32] fsnotify: Add helper to detect overflow_event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 09/32] fsnotify: Add wrapper around fsnotify_add_event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 10/32] fsnotify: Retrieve super block from the data field Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 11/32] fsnotify: Protect fsnotify_handle_inode_event from no-inode events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  5:34   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-19 10:01     ` Jan Kara
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 12/32] fsnotify: Pass group argument to free_event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 13/32] fanotify: Support null inode event in fanotify_dfid_inode Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 14/32] fanotify: Allow file handle encoding for unhashed events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 15/32] fanotify: Encode empty file handle when no inode is provided Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-18 23:59 ` [PATCH v8 16/32] fanotify: Require fid_mode for any non-fd event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 17/32] fsnotify: Support FS_ERROR event type Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 18/32] fanotify: Reserve UAPI bits for FAN_FS_ERROR Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 19/32] fanotify: Pre-allocate pool of error events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  5:38   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-19 11:52     ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 20/32] fanotify: Dynamically resize the FAN_FS_ERROR pool Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  5:50   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-19 12:03     ` Jan Kara
2021-10-21 18:17       ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-21 19:29         ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 21/32] fanotify: Support enqueueing of error events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  5:52   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 22/32] fanotify: Support merging " Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  5:56   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-19 13:52   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 23/32] fanotify: Wrap object_fh inline space in a creator macro Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  6:09   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-19 13:58   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 24/32] fanotify: Add helpers to decide whether to report FID/DFID Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  6:12   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-19 14:03   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 25/32] fanotify: Report fid entry even for zero-length file_handle Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  6:13   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-19 14:08   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 26/32] fanotify: WARN_ON against too large file handles Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  6:02   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-19 14:06   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 27/32] fanotify: Report fid info for file related file system errors Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  6:07   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-19 14:41   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 28/32] fanotify: Emit generic error info for error event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 29/32] fanotify: Allow users to request FAN_FS_ERROR events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19  5:57   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-19 15:24   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 30/32] ext4: Send notifications on error Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19 15:44   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19 16:01     ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19 16:54       ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-20  3:11         ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 31/32] samples: Add fs error monitoring example Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19 15:49   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-28 15:18   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-10-28 18:56     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-28 19:56       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-11-01 11:42       ` Jan Kara
2021-10-19  0:00 ` [PATCH v8 32/32] docs: Document the FAN_FS_ERROR event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-19 16:47   ` Jan Kara

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