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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/3] mm/vmalloc: add support for __GFP_NOFAIL
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 16:43:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YXgUI33cfWYYrjXw@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+KHdyWev2RwoO1o9OrAkaE2VdC7iSXnJdBR+qzarqYOse3cXA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 26-10-21 16:25:07, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:24 PM NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Oct 2021, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Tue 26-10-21 10:50:21, Neil Brown wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2021, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 09:49:08AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > > > > However I'm not 100% certain, and the behaviour might change in the
> > > > > > future.  So having one place (the definition of memalloc_retry_wait())
> > > > > > where we can change the sleeping behaviour if the alloc_page behavour
> > > > > > changes, would be ideal.  Maybe memalloc_retry_wait() could take a
> > > > > > gfpflags arg.
> > > > > >
> > > > > At sleeping is required for __get_vm_area_node() because in case of lack
> > > > > of vmap space it will end up in tight loop without sleeping what is
> > > > > really bad.
> > > > >
> > > > So vmalloc() has two failure modes.  alloc_page() failure and
> > > > __alloc_vmap_area() failure.  The caller cannot tell which...
> > > >
> > > > Actually, they can.  If we pass __GFP_NOFAIL to vmalloc(), and it fails,
> > > > then it must have been __alloc_vmap_area() which failed.
> > > > What do we do in that case?
> > > > Can we add a waitq which gets a wakeup when __purge_vmap_area_lazy()
> > > > finishes?
> > > > If we use the spinlock from that waitq in place of free_vmap_area_lock,
> > > > then the wakeup would be nearly free if no-one was waiting, and worth
> > > > while if someone was waiting.
> > >
> > > Is this really required to be part of the initial support?
> >
> > No.... I was just thinking out-loud.
> >
> alloc_vmap_area() has an retry path, basically if it fails the code
> will try to "purge"
> areas and repeat it one more time. So we do not need to purge outside some where
> else.

I think that Neil was not concerned about the need for purging something
but rather a waiting event the retry loop could hook into. So that the
sleep wouldn't have to be a random timeout but something that is
actually actionable - like somebody freeing an area.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-26 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-18 11:47 [RFC 0/3] extend vmalloc support for constrained allocations Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 11:47 ` [RFC 1/3] mm/vmalloc: alloc GFP_NO{FS,IO} for vmalloc Michal Hocko
2021-10-19  0:44   ` NeilBrown
2021-10-19  6:59     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 11:47 ` [RFC 2/3] mm/vmalloc: add support for __GFP_NOFAIL Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 16:48   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 11:06   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-19 11:52     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 19:46       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-20  8:25         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20  9:18           ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 13:54           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-20 14:06             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 14:29               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-20 14:53                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 15:00                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-20 19:24                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-21  8:56                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 10:13                       ` NeilBrown
2021-10-21 10:27                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 10:40                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-21 22:49                             ` NeilBrown
2021-10-22  8:18                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  9:48                               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-25 11:20                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25 14:30                                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-25 14:56                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25 23:50                                 ` NeilBrown
2021-10-26  7:16                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-26 10:24                                     ` NeilBrown
2021-10-26 14:25                                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-26 14:43                                         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-10-26 15:40                                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-20  8:25   ` [PATCH] mm/vmalloc: be more explicit about supported gfp flags Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 11:47 ` [RFC 3/3] mm: allow !GFP_KERNEL allocations for kvmalloc Michal Hocko

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