From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, keescook@chromium.org,
yzaikin@google.com, nixiaoming@huawei.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
peterz@infradead.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, pjt@google.com,
liu.hailong6@zte.com.cn, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com,
sre@kernel.org, penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp,
senozhatsky@chromium.org, wangqing@vivo.com, bcrl@kvack.org,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, jack@suse.cz, amir73il@gmail.com,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/9] sysctl: add a new register_sysctl_init() interface
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:01:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YaU/phu3JoalmC8E@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YZ+2XwgQn8UpVcpb@alley>
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 05:14:23PM +0100, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Tue 2021-11-23 12:23:39, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > From: Xiaoming Ni <nixiaoming@huawei.com>
> >
> > The kernel/sysctl.c is a kitchen sink where everyone leaves
> > their dirty dishes, this makes it very difficult to maintain.
> >
> > To help with this maintenance let's start by moving sysctls to
> > places where they actually belong. The proc sysctl maintainers
> > do not want to know what sysctl knobs you wish to add for your own
> > piece of code, we just care about the core logic.
> >
> > Today though folks heavily rely on tables on kernel/sysctl.c so
> > they can easily just extend this table with their needed sysctls.
> > In order to help users move their sysctls out we need to provide a
> > helper which can be used during code initialization.
> >
> > We special-case the initialization use of register_sysctl() since
> > it *is* safe to fail, given all that sysctls do is provide a dynamic
> > interface to query or modify at runtime an existing variable. So the
> > use case of register_sysctl() on init should *not* stop if the sysctls
> > don't end up getting registered. It would be counter productive to
> > stop boot if a simple sysctl registration failed.
> >
> > Provide a helper for init then, and document the recommended init
> > levels to use for callers of this routine. We will later use this
> > in subsequent patches to start slimming down kernel/sysctl.c tables
> > and moving sysctl registration to the code which actually needs
> > these sysctls.
>
> Do we really need a new helper for this?
> Is the failure acceptable only during system initialization?
Yes because it is __init and we allow / guide folks to *think* clearly
about not stopping the init process when it comes to sysctls on failure.
> The warning would be useful even for the original register_sysctl().
We can open code those.
> It should be up-to-the caller to decide if the failure is fatal
> or not. It might be enough to document the reasoning why a warning
> is enough in most cases.
For most case I have seen so far special casing init seems like a worthy
objective. When we're done with the full conversion we can re-visit
things but at this point I can't say sharing this outside of init uses
makes too much sense.
Luis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-29 22:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-23 20:23 [PATCH v2 0/9] sysctl: first set of kernel/sysctl cleanups Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-23 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] sysctl: add a new register_sysctl_init() interface Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-25 16:14 ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-29 21:01 ` Luis Chamberlain [this message]
2021-11-23 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] sysctl: Move some boundary constants from sysctl.c to sysctl_vals Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-24 4:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-11-24 7:05 ` Xiaoming Ni
2021-11-24 17:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-11-24 23:12 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-23 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] hung_task: Move hung_task sysctl interface to hung_task.c Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-26 9:46 ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-23 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] watchdog: move watchdog sysctl interface to watchdog.c Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-26 9:40 ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-23 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] sysctl: make ngroups_max const Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-23 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] sysctl: use const for typically used max/min proc sysctls Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-23 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] sysctl: use SYSCTL_ZERO to replace some static int zero uses Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-23 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] aio: move aio sysctl to aio.c Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-24 9:32 ` Jan Kara
2021-11-23 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] dnotify: move dnotify sysctl to dnotify.c Luis Chamberlain
2021-11-24 9:31 ` Jan Kara
2021-11-24 0:14 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] sysctl: first set of kernel/sysctl cleanups Andrew Morton
2021-11-24 0:27 ` Luis Chamberlain
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