From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 14/16] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 20:52:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YdYFFzlPTvgFdSXL@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220105075356.GB19947@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022, Yan Zhao wrote:
> Sorry, maybe I didn't express it clearly.
>
> As in the kvm_faultin_pfn_private(),
> static bool kvm_faultin_pfn_private(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
> struct kvm_page_fault *fault,
> bool *is_private_pfn, int *r)
> {
> int order;
> int mem_convert_type;
> struct kvm_memory_slot *slot = fault->slot;
> long pfn = kvm_memfd_get_pfn(slot, fault->gfn, &order);
> ...
> }
> Currently, kvm_memfd_get_pfn() is called unconditionally.
> However, if the backend of a private memslot is not memfd, and is device
> fd for example, a different xxx_get_pfn() is required here.
Ya, I've complained about this in a different thread[*]. This should really be
something like kvm_private_fd_get_pfn(), where the underlying ops struct can point
at any compatible backing store.
https://lore.kernel.org/all/YcuMUemyBXFYyxCC@google.com/
> Further, though mapped to a private gfn, it might be ok for QEMU to
> access the device fd in hva-based way (or call it MMU access way, e.g.
> read/write/mmap), it's desired that it could use the traditional to get
> pfn without convert the range to a shared one.
No, this is expressly forbidden. The backing store for a private gfn must not
be accessible by userspace. It's possible a backing store could support both, but
not concurrently, and any conversion must be done without KVM being involved.
In other words, resolving a private gfn must either succeed or fail (exit to
userspace), KVM cannot initiate any conversions.
> pfn = __gfn_to_pfn_memslot(slot, fault->gfn, ...)
> |->addr = __gfn_to_hva_many (slot, gfn,...)
> | pfn = hva_to_pfn (addr,...)
>
>
> So, is it possible to recognize such kind of backends in KVM, and to get
> the pfn in traditional way without converting them to shared?
> e.g.
> - specify KVM_MEM_PRIVATE_NONPROTECT to memory regions with such kind
> of backends, or
> - detect the fd type and check if get_pfn is provided. if no, go the
> traditional way.
No, because the whole point of this is to make guest private memory inaccessible
to host userspace. Or did I misinterpret your questions?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-05 20:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-23 12:29 [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 00/16] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 01/16] mm/shmem: Introduce F_SEAL_INACCESSIBLE Chao Peng
2022-01-04 14:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-06 13:06 ` Chao Peng
2022-01-13 15:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 02/16] mm/memfd: Introduce MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 03/16] mm/memfd: Introduce MEMFD_OPS Chao Peng
2021-12-24 3:53 ` Robert Hoo
2021-12-31 2:38 ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05 6:07 ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 04/16] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory Chao Peng
2021-12-23 17:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-31 2:53 ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 05/16] KVM: Maintain ofs_tree for fast memslot lookup by file offset Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24 3:54 ` Chao Peng
2021-12-27 23:50 ` Yao Yuan
2021-12-28 21:48 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-31 2:26 ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05 6:09 ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 06/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory using MEMFD_OPS interfaces Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 23:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-24 4:25 ` Chao Peng
2021-12-28 22:14 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24 4:12 ` Chao Peng
2021-12-24 4:22 ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 07/16] KVM: Refactor hva based memory invalidation code Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 08/16] KVM: Special handling for fd-based memory invalidation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 09/16] KVM: Split out common memory invalidation code Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 10/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory invalidation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 11/16] KVM: Add kvm_map_gfn_range Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:06 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24 4:13 ` Chao Peng
2021-12-31 2:33 ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05 6:14 ` Chao Peng
2022-01-05 17:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-06 12:35 ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 12/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory fallocation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 13/16] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_ERROR exit Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 14/16] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory Chao Peng
2022-01-04 1:46 ` Yan Zhao
2022-01-04 9:10 ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 10:06 ` Yan Zhao
2022-01-05 6:28 ` Chao Peng
2022-01-05 7:53 ` Yan Zhao
2022-01-05 20:52 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-01-14 5:53 ` Yan Zhao
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 15/16] KVM: Use kvm_userspace_memory_region_ext Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 16/16] KVM: Register/unregister private memory slot to memfd Chao Peng
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