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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 14/16] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 20:52:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YdYFFzlPTvgFdSXL@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220105075356.GB19947@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Wed, Jan 05, 2022, Yan Zhao wrote:
> Sorry, maybe I didn't express it clearly.
> 
> As in the kvm_faultin_pfn_private(), 
> static bool kvm_faultin_pfn_private(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
> 				    struct kvm_page_fault *fault,
> 				    bool *is_private_pfn, int *r)
> {
> 	int order;
> 	int mem_convert_type;
> 	struct kvm_memory_slot *slot = fault->slot;
> 	long pfn = kvm_memfd_get_pfn(slot, fault->gfn, &order);
> 	...
> }
> Currently, kvm_memfd_get_pfn() is called unconditionally.
> However, if the backend of a private memslot is not memfd, and is device
> fd for example, a different xxx_get_pfn() is required here.

Ya, I've complained about this in a different thread[*].  This should really be
something like kvm_private_fd_get_pfn(), where the underlying ops struct can point
at any compatible backing store.

https://lore.kernel.org/all/YcuMUemyBXFYyxCC@google.com/

> Further, though mapped to a private gfn, it might be ok for QEMU to
> access the device fd in hva-based way (or call it MMU access way, e.g.
> read/write/mmap), it's desired that it could use the traditional to get
> pfn without convert the range to a shared one.

No, this is expressly forbidden.  The backing store for a private gfn must not
be accessible by userspace.  It's possible a backing store could support both, but
not concurrently, and any conversion must be done without KVM being involved.
In other words, resolving a private gfn must either succeed or fail (exit to
userspace), KVM cannot initiate any conversions.

> pfn = __gfn_to_pfn_memslot(slot, fault->gfn, ...)
> 	|->addr = __gfn_to_hva_many (slot, gfn,...)
> 	|  pfn = hva_to_pfn (addr,...)
> 
> 
> So, is it possible to recognize such kind of backends in KVM, and to get
> the pfn in traditional way without converting them to shared?
> e.g.
> - specify KVM_MEM_PRIVATE_NONPROTECT to memory regions with such kind
> of backends, or
> - detect the fd type and check if get_pfn is provided. if no, go the
>   traditional way.

No, because the whole point of this is to make guest private memory inaccessible
to host userspace.  Or did I misinterpret your questions?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-05 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-23 12:29 [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 00/16] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 01/16] mm/shmem: Introduce F_SEAL_INACCESSIBLE Chao Peng
2022-01-04 14:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-06 13:06     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-13 15:56       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 02/16] mm/memfd: Introduce MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 03/16] mm/memfd: Introduce MEMFD_OPS Chao Peng
2021-12-24  3:53   ` Robert Hoo
2021-12-31  2:38     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:38       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  6:07         ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 04/16] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory Chao Peng
2021-12-23 17:35   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-31  2:53     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:34       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 05/16] KVM: Maintain ofs_tree for fast memslot lookup by file offset Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:02   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24  3:54     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-27 23:50       ` Yao Yuan
2021-12-28 21:48       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-31  2:26         ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:43           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  6:09             ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 06/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory using MEMFD_OPS interfaces Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:34   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 23:09     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-24  4:25       ` Chao Peng
2021-12-28 22:14         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24  4:12     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-24  4:22     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 07/16] KVM: Refactor hva based memory invalidation code Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 08/16] KVM: Special handling for fd-based memory invalidation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 09/16] KVM: Split out common memory invalidation code Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 10/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory invalidation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 11/16] KVM: Add kvm_map_gfn_range Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:06   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24  4:13     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-31  2:33       ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:31         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  6:14           ` Chao Peng
2022-01-05 17:03             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-06 12:35               ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 12/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory fallocation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 13/16] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_ERROR exit Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:28   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 14/16] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory Chao Peng
2022-01-04  1:46   ` Yan Zhao
2022-01-04  9:10     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 10:06       ` Yan Zhao
2022-01-05  6:28         ` Chao Peng
2022-01-05  7:53           ` Yan Zhao
2022-01-05 20:52             ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-01-14  5:53               ` Yan Zhao
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 15/16] KVM: Use kvm_userspace_memory_region_ext Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 16/16] KVM: Register/unregister private memory slot to memfd Chao Peng

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