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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Nathaniel McCallum <nathaniel@profian.com>,
	Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	codalist@telemann.coda.cs.cmu.edu, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2] mm: Add f_ops->populate()
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 15:00:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YiYB6WWz8cbvaAqX@iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220306152456.2649b1c56da2a4ce4f487be4@linux-foundation.org>

On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 03:24:56PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sun,  6 Mar 2022 05:26:55 +0200 Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > Sometimes you might want to use MAP_POPULATE to ask a device driver to
> > initialize the device memory in some specific manner. SGX driver can use
> > this to request more memory by issuing ENCLS[EAUG] x86 opcode for each
> > page in the address range.
> 
> Why is this useful?  Please fully describe the benefit to kernel users.
> Convince us that the benefit justifies the code churn, maintenance
> cost and larger kernel footprint.
> 
> Do we know of any other drivers which might use this?

Brutal honesty: I don't know if any other drivers would use this but
neither I would not be surprised if they did. The need for this might
very well be "masked" by ioctl API's.  I was first proposing a ioctl
for this but Dave suggested to at least try out this route.

> > Add f_ops->populate() with the same parameters as f_ops->mmap() and make
> > it conditionally called inside call_mmap(). Update call sites
> > accodingly.
> 
> spello

Thanks, I noticed that but did not want to spam with a new version just
because of that :-)

> 
> > -static inline int call_mmap(struct file *file, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > +static inline int call_mmap(struct file *file, struct vm_area_struct *vma, bool do_populate)
> >  {
> > -	return file->f_op->mmap(file, vma);
> > +	int ret = file->f_op->mmap(file, vma);
> > +
> > +	if (!ret && do_populate && file->f_op->populate)
> > +		ret = file->f_op->populate(file, vma);
> > +
> > +	return ret;
> >  }
> 
> Should this still be inlined?

I think it might make sense at least to have call_mmap_populate() so and
mmap_region_populate() instead of putting that boolean parameter to every
flow (based on Greg's feedback). But only if this implementation approach
is used in the first place.

As said, I chose to use RFC to pinpoint a bottleneck for us, not claiming
that this would be the best possible way to work around it.

BR, Jarkko

      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-07 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-06  3:26 [PATCH RFC v2] mm: Add f_ops->populate() Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-06 23:24 ` Andrew Morton
2022-03-06 23:41   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-07 11:27     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-07 15:29       ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-07 15:44         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-07 14:37     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-07 15:43       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-07 13:00   ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]

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