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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] mm: Centralize & improve oom reporting in show_mem.c
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 12:51:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YmKInWEihG+7mkU6@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220422094413.2i6dygfpul3toyqr@moria.home.lan>

On Fri 22-04-22 05:44:13, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:27:05AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > We already do that in some form. We dump unreclaimable slabs if they
> > consume more memory than user pages on LRUs. We also dump all slab
> > caches with some objects. Why is this approach not good? Should we tweak
> > the condition to dump or should we limit the dump? These are reasonable 
> > questions to ask. Your patch has dropped those without explaining any
> > of the motivation.
> > 
> > I am perfectly OK to modify should_dump_unreclaim_slab to dump even if
> > the slab memory consumption is lower. Also dumping small caches with
> > handful of objects can be excessive.
> > 
> > Wrt to shrinkers I really do not know what kind of shrinkers data would
> > be useful to dump and when. Therefore I am asking about examples.
> 
> Look, I've given you the sample

That sample is of no use as it doesn't really show how the additional
information is useful to analyze the allocation failure. I thought we
have agreed on that. You still haven't given any example where the
information is useful. So I do not really see any reason to change the
existing output.

> output you asked for and explained repeatedly my
> rationale and you haven't directly responded;

Your rationale is that we need more data and I do agree but it is not
clear which data and under which conditions.

> if you have a reason you're
> against the patches please say so, but please give your reasoning.

I have expressed that already, I believe, but let me repeat. I do not
like altering the oom report without a justification on how this new
output is useful. You have failed to explained that so far.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-22 10:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-19 20:31 [PATCH 0/4] Printbufs & shrinker OOM reporting Kent Overstreet
2022-04-19 20:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] lib/printbuf: New data structure for heap-allocated strings Kent Overstreet
2022-04-19 21:11   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-04-20  0:12     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-04-20  5:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-20  5:18     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-04-19 20:32 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: Add a .to_text() method for shrinkers Kent Overstreet
2022-04-19 20:32 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: Centralize & improve oom reporting in show_mem.c Kent Overstreet
2022-04-20  6:58   ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-20 16:58     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-04-21  9:18       ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-21 18:42         ` Kent Overstreet
2022-04-22  8:03           ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-22  8:30             ` Kent Overstreet
2022-04-22  9:27               ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-22  9:44                 ` Kent Overstreet
2022-04-22 10:51                   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-04-22 10:58                     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-04-19 20:32 ` [PATCH 4/4] bcachefs: shrinker.to_text() methods Kent Overstreet
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2022-04-21 23:48 [PATCH 0/4] Printbufs & shrinker OOM reporting Kent Overstreet
2022-04-21 23:48 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: Centralize & improve oom reporting in show_mem.c Kent Overstreet

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