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From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Daniel Latypov <dlatypov@google.com>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: David Gow <davidgow@google.com>,
	Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
	Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Guilherme G . Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>,
	Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Joe Fradley <joefradley@google.com>,
	kunit-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kunit: Taint kernel if any tests run
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 14:12:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YnLsPgbQ7CHiannN@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGS_qxoFECVJD3Jby1eTWG741hBWuotuEM78PU-qfyvp-nLV7Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 02:19:59PM -0500, Daniel Latypov wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 1:46 PM Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org> wrote:
> > OK so, we can just skip tainting considerations for selftests which
> > don't use modules for now. There may be selftests which do wonky
> > things in userspace but indeed I agree the userspace taint would
> > be better for those but I don't think it may be worth bother
> > worrying about those at this point in time.
> >
> > But my point in that sharing a taint between kunit / selftests modules
> > does make sense and is easily possible. The unfortunate aspect is just
> 
> Yes, I 100% agree that we should share a taint for kernelspace testing
> from both kunit/kselftest.
> Someone running the system won't care what framework was used.

OK do you mind doing the nasty work of manually adding the new
MODULE_TAINT() to the selftests as part of your effort?

*Alternatively*, if we *moved* all sefltests modules to a new
lib/debug/selftests/ directory or something like that then t would
seem modpost *could* add the taint flag automagically for us without
having to edit or require it on new drivers. We have similar type of
taint for staging, see add_staging_flag().

I would *highly* prefer this approach, event though it is more work,
because I think this is a step we should take anyway.

However, I just checked modules on lib/ and well, some of them are
already in their own directory, like lib/math/test_div64.c. So not
sure, maybe just move a few modules which are just in lib/*.c for now
and then just sprinkle the MODULE_TAINT() to the others?

> > that selftests don't have a centralized runner, because I can just
> > run tools/testing/selftests/sysctl/sysctl.sh for example and that's it.
> > So I think we have no other option but to just add the module info
> > manually for selftests at this time.
> 
> Somewhat tangential: there's a number of other test modules that
> aren't explicitly part of kselftest.

Oh interesting, like which one?

> Long-term, I think most of them should be converted to kselftest or
> kunit as appropriate, so they'll get taken care of eventually.

Makes sense.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-04 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220429043913.626647-1-davidgow@google.com>
     [not found] ` <20220430030019.803481-1-davidgow@google.com>
     [not found]   ` <Ym7P7mCoMiQq99EM@bombadil.infradead.org>
2022-05-01 18:24     ` [PATCH v2] kunit: Taint kernel if any tests run Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-03  6:49       ` David Gow
2022-05-04 14:51         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-04 16:25           ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-04 18:46             ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-04 19:19               ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-04 21:12                 ` Luis Chamberlain [this message]
2022-05-05  5:57                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-06  7:01                     ` David Gow
2022-05-09 20:43                       ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-13  8:32 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] panic: Taint kernel if tests are run David Gow
2022-05-13 15:35   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-17 20:45   ` Brendan Higgins
2022-05-13  8:32 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] kunit: Taint the kernel when KUnit " David Gow
2022-05-13 15:36   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-13 19:08   ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-14  3:04     ` David Gow
2022-05-14 19:25       ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-17 20:58         ` Brendan Higgins
2022-05-17 20:58   ` Brendan Higgins
2022-05-13  8:32 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] selftest: Taint kernel when test module loaded David Gow
2022-05-13 15:38   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-14  8:34     ` David Gow

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