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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
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	Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
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	Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
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	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
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	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] add barriers to buffer functions
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 16:39:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YvEuIg3669UeSwjD@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.2208081050330.8160@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com>

On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 10:57:45AM -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 10:26:10AM -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2022, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > +static __always_inline void set_buffer_locked(struct buffer_head *bh)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	set_bit(BH_Lock, &bh->b_state);
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > > +static __always_inline int buffer_locked(const struct buffer_head *bh)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	bool ret = test_bit(BH_Lock, &bh->b_state);
> > > > > +	/*
> > > > > +	 * pairs with smp_mb__after_atomic in unlock_buffer
> > > > > +	 */
> > > > > +	if (!ret)
> > > > > +		smp_acquire__after_ctrl_dep();
> > > > > +	return ret;
> > > > > +}
> > > > 
> > > > Are there places that think that lock/unlock buffer implies a memory
> > > > barrier?
> > > 
> > > There's this in fs/reiserfs:
> > > 
> > > if (!buffer_dirty(bh) && !buffer_locked(bh)) {
> > > 	reiserfs_free_jh(bh); <--- this could be moved before buffer_locked
> > 
> > It might be better to think of buffer_locked() as
> > buffer_someone_has_exclusive_access().  I can't see the problem with
> > moving the reads in reiserfs_free_jh() before the read of buffer_locked.
> > 
> > > if (buffer_locked((journal->j_header_bh))) {
> > > 	...
> > > }
> > > journal->j_last_flush_trans_id = trans_id;
> > > journal->j_first_unflushed_offset = offset;
> > > jh = (struct reiserfs_journal_header *)(journal->j_header_bh->b_data); <--- this could be moved before buffer_locked
> > 
> > I don't think b_data is going to be changed while someone else holds
> > the buffer locked.  That's initialised by set_bh_page(), which is an
> > initialisation-time thing, before the BH is visible to any other thread.
> 
> So, do you think that we don't need a barrier in buffer_locked()?

That's my feeling.  Of course, you might not be the only one confused,
and if fs authors in general have made the mistake of thinking that
buffer_locked is serialising, then it might be better to live up to
that expectation.

> There is also this (where the BUG_ON(!buffer_uptodate(bh)) saves it).
>                 if (buffer_locked(bh)) {
>                         int depth;
>                         PROC_INFO_INC(sb, scan_bitmap.wait);
>                         depth = reiserfs_write_unlock_nested(sb);
>                         __wait_on_buffer(bh);
>                         reiserfs_write_lock_nested(sb, depth);
>                 }
>                 BUG_ON(!buffer_uptodate(bh));
>                 BUG_ON(atomic_read(&bh->b_count) == 0);
> 
>                 if (info->free_count == UINT_MAX)
>                         reiserfs_cache_bitmap_metadata(sb, bh, info); <--- this could be moved before buffer_locked if there were no BUG_ONs

It could be moved before buffer_locked(), but I don't see the harm in
that.  Look at how reiserfs_read_bitmap_block() gets the bh:

        bh = sb_bread(sb, block);

__bread_gfp() has either already read the buffer (and it's uptodate),
in which case it returns it.  Or it calls __bread_slow() which will do
the read and check uptodate before returning it.  I wouldn't be surprised
to find that this buffer_locked() check is actually dead code, but I have
no desire to dive into reiserfs far enough to find out whether it's dead
code or not.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-08 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-31 11:43 [PATCH] Add a read memory barrier to wait_on_buffer Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 12:00 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-31 13:41   ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 15:08     ` [PATCH v2] make buffer_locked provide an acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 16:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-31 17:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-31 22:48           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-01  3:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-01 15:41           ` Will Deacon
2022-08-01 19:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-02  8:54               ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 13:49                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-02 15:29                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-31 20:39         ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:40           ` [PATCH v3 1/2] wait_bit: do read barrier after testing a bit Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-01 10:40               ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 10:43                 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] change buffer_locked, so that it has acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 14:37                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-01 15:01                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-05  3:22                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-07 11:37                         ` [PATCH v5] add barriers to buffer functions Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-07 14:50                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08 14:26                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-08 14:40                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08 14:57                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-08 15:31                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-08 15:39                                   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2022-08-09 18:32                                     ` [PATCH v6] add barriers to buffer_uptodate and set_buffer_uptodate Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-09 19:44                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-09 22:06                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-01 10:42               ` [PATCH v4 1/2] introduce test_bit_acquire and use it in wait_on_bit Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 15:54                 ` Will Deacon
2022-08-01 16:12                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 18:17                     ` Boqun Feng
2022-08-02  8:00                       ` David Laight
2022-08-02  8:40                     ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 11:38                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-02 13:36                         ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 15:57                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01  0:27             ` [PATCH v3 1/2] wait_bit: do read barrier after testing a bit Alan Stern
2022-07-31 20:43           ` [PATCH v3 2/2] make buffer_locked provide an acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-31 22:14             ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-31 22:31               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-31 22:48                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-31 20:46           ` [PATCH v2] " Linus Torvalds

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