From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, Daire Byrne <daire@dneg.com>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] VFS: support parallel updates in the one directory.
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2022 01:23:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ywlj9RnHavvCNpCd@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whz69y=98udgGB5ujH6bapYuapwfHS2esWaFrKEoi9-Ow@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 05:13:38PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So I feel like if the VFS code cannot rely on locking *anyway* in the
> general case, and should work without it, then we really shouldn't
> have any locking around any of the VFS operations.
That's a really big if. There's a bunch of places where we rely upon
->i_rwsem on directories and _not_ to provide exclusion for fs methods.
I'm still halfway through the Neil's patchset, but verifying correctness
won't be easy and I'm not optimistic about getting rid of those uses...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-27 0:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-26 2:10 [PATCH/RFC 00/10 v5] Improve scalability of directory operations NeilBrown
2022-08-26 2:10 ` [PATCH 05/10] VFS: export done_path_update() NeilBrown
2022-08-26 2:10 ` [PATCH 10/10] NFS: support parallel updates in the one directory NeilBrown
2022-08-26 15:31 ` John Stoffel
2022-08-26 23:13 ` NeilBrown
2022-08-26 2:10 ` [PATCH 07/10] VFS: hold DCACHE_PAR_UPDATE lock across d_revalidate() NeilBrown
2022-08-26 2:10 ` [PATCH 02/10] VFS: move EEXIST and ENOENT tests into lookup_hash_update() NeilBrown
2022-08-26 2:10 ` [PATCH 06/10] VFS: support concurrent renames NeilBrown
2022-08-27 4:12 ` Al Viro
2022-08-29 3:08 ` NeilBrown
2022-08-26 2:10 ` [PATCH 03/10] VFS: move want_write checks into lookup_hash_update() NeilBrown
2022-08-27 3:48 ` Al Viro
2022-08-26 2:10 ` [PATCH 09/10] VFS: add LOOKUP_SILLY_RENAME NeilBrown
2022-08-27 1:21 ` Al Viro
2022-08-29 3:15 ` NeilBrown
2022-08-26 2:10 ` [PATCH 01/10] VFS: support parallel updates in the one directory NeilBrown
2022-08-26 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-26 23:06 ` NeilBrown
2022-08-27 0:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-27 0:23 ` Al Viro [this message]
2022-08-27 21:14 ` Al Viro
2022-08-27 0:17 ` Al Viro
2022-09-01 0:31 ` NeilBrown
2022-09-01 3:44 ` Al Viro
2022-08-27 3:43 ` Al Viro
2022-08-29 1:59 ` NeilBrown
2022-09-03 0:06 ` Al Viro
2022-09-03 1:40 ` NeilBrown
2022-09-03 2:12 ` Al Viro
2022-09-03 17:52 ` Al Viro
2022-09-04 23:33 ` NeilBrown
2022-08-26 2:10 ` [PATCH 08/10] NFSD: allow parallel creates from nfsd NeilBrown
2022-08-27 4:37 ` Al Viro
2022-08-29 3:12 ` NeilBrown
2022-08-26 2:10 ` [PATCH 04/10] VFS: move dput() and mnt_drop_write() into done_path_update() NeilBrown
2022-08-26 14:42 ` [PATCH/RFC 00/10 v5] Improve scalability of directory operations John Stoffel
2022-08-26 23:30 ` NeilBrown
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