From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: hare@suse.de, dave@stgolabs.net, david@fromorbit.com,
djwong@kernel.org, kbusch@kernel.org, john.g.garry@oracle.com,
hch@lst.de, ritesh.list@gmail.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, gost.dev@samsung.com,
p.raghav@samsung.com, da.gomez@samsung.com,
kernel@pankajraghav.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] fs/buffer: strack reduction on async read
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 06:00:00 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6DL4MrsHbtX_MIs@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z51ISh2YAlwoLo5h@casper.infradead.org>
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 10:01:46PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 08:54:31AM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 03:51:34AM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 06:27:36PM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 08:05:29PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 06:26:21PM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > > > > > This splits up a minor enhancement from the bs > ps device support
> > > > > > series into its own series for better review / focus / testing.
> > > > > > This series just addresses the reducing the array size used and cleaning
> > > > > > up the async read to be easier to read and maintain.
> > > > >
> > > > > How about this approach instead -- get rid of the batch entirely?
> > > >
> > > > Less is more! I wish it worked, but we end up with a null pointer on
> > > > ext4/032 (and indeed this is the test that helped me find most bugs in
> > > > what I was working on):
> > >
> > > Yeah, I did no testing; just wanted to give people a different approach
> > > to consider.
> > >
> > > > [ 106.034851] BUG: kernel NULL pointer dereference, address: 0000000000000000
> > > > [ 106.046300] RIP: 0010:end_buffer_async_read_io+0x11/0x90
> > > > [ 106.047819] Code: f2 ff 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 0f 1f 44 00 00 53 48 8b 47 10 48 89 fb 48 8b 40 18 <48> 8b 00 f6 40 0d 40 74 0d 0f b7 00 66 25 00 f0 66 3d 00 80 74 09
> > >
> > > That decodes as:
> > >
> > > 5: 53 push %rbx
> > > 6: 48 8b 47 10 mov 0x10(%rdi),%rax
> > > a: 48 89 fb mov %rdi,%rbx
> > > d: 48 8b 40 18 mov 0x18(%rax),%rax
> > > 11:* 48 8b 00 mov (%rax),%rax <-- trapping instruction
> > > 14: f6 40 0d 40 testb $0x40,0xd(%rax)
> > >
> > > 6: bh->b_folio
> > > d: b_folio->mapping
> > > 11: mapping->host
> > >
> > > So folio->mapping is NULL.
> > >
> > > Ah, I see the problem. end_buffer_async_read() uses the buffer_async_read
> > > test to decide if all buffers on the page are uptodate or not. So both
> > > having no batch (ie this patch) and having a batch which is smaller than
> > > the number of buffers in the folio can lead to folio_end_read() being
> > > called prematurely (ie we'll unlock the folio before finishing reading
> > > every buffer in the folio).
> >
> > But:
> >
> > a) all batched buffers are locked in the old code, we only unlock
> > the currently evaluated buffer, the buffers from our pivot are locked
> > and should also have the async flag set. That fact that buffers ahead
> > should have the async flag set should prevent from calling
> > folio_end_read() prematurely as I read the code, no?
>
> I'm sure you know what you mean by "the old code", but I don't.
>
> If you mean "the code in 6.13", here's what it does:
Yes that is what I meant, sorry.
>
> tmp = bh;
> do {
> if (!buffer_uptodate(tmp))
> folio_uptodate = 0;
> if (buffer_async_read(tmp)) {
> BUG_ON(!buffer_locked(tmp));
> goto still_busy;
> }
> tmp = tmp->b_this_page;
> } while (tmp != bh);
> folio_end_read(folio, folio_uptodate);
>
> so it's going to cycle around every buffer on the page, and if it finds
> none which are marked async_read, it'll call folio_end_read().
> That's fine in 6.13 because in stage 2, all buffers which are part of
> this folio are marked as async_read.
Indeed, also, its not just every buffer on the page, since we can call
end_buffer_async_read() on every buffer in the page we can end up
calling end_buffer_async_read() on every buffer in the worst case, and
on each loop above we start from the pivot buffer up to the end of the
page.
> In your patch, you mark every buffer _in the batch_ as async_read
> and then submit the entire batch. So if they all complete before you
> mark the next bh as being uptodate, it'll think the read is complete
> and call folio_end_read().
Ah yes, thanks, this clarifies to me what you meant!
Luis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-03 14:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-18 2:26 [PATCH 0/5] fs/buffer: strack reduction on async read Luis Chamberlain
2024-12-18 2:26 ` [PATCH 1/5] fs/buffer: move async batch read code into a helper Luis Chamberlain
2024-12-18 2:26 ` [PATCH 2/5] fs/buffer: simplify block_read_full_folio() with bh_offset() Luis Chamberlain
2024-12-18 2:26 ` [PATCH 3/5] fs/buffer: add a for_each_bh() for block_read_full_folio() Luis Chamberlain
2024-12-18 19:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-18 2:26 ` [PATCH 4/5] fs/buffer: add iteration support " Luis Chamberlain
2024-12-18 2:26 ` [PATCH 5/5] fs/buffer: reduce stack usage on bh_read_iter() Luis Chamberlain
2024-12-18 2:47 ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-12-18 20:05 ` [PATCH 0/5] fs/buffer: strack reduction on async read Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-19 2:27 ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-12-19 3:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-30 17:30 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-01-31 16:54 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-01-31 22:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-03 14:00 ` Luis Chamberlain [this message]
2024-12-19 6:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-19 17:53 ` Luis Chamberlain
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