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From: Alexey Gladkov <legion@kernel.org>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"Sapkal, Swapnil" <swapnil.sapkal@amd.com>,
	Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	WangYuli <wangyuli@uniontech.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Shenoy, Gautham Ranjal" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pipe_read: don't wake up the writer if the pipe is still full
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 18:18:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8XkY5WnynjBJPDn@example.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30d35796-4687-440e-845f-b015d52fa4f0@amd.com>

On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 09:16:08PM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Legion,
> 
> On 3/3/2025 6:30 PM, Alexey Gladkov wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 12:57:37PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >> On 02/24, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just in case, did you use
> >>>
> >>> 	https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/rt-tests/rt-tests.git/tree/src/hackbench/hackbench.c
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>
> >> Or did you use another version?
> >>
> >> Exactly what parameters did you use?
> >>
> >> If possible, please reproduce the hang again. How many threads/processes
> >> sleeping in pipe_read() or pipe_write() do you see? (you can look at
> >> /proc/$pid/stack).
> >>
> >> Please pick one sleeping writer, and do
> >>
> >> 	$ strace -p pidof_that_write
> >>
> >> this should wake this writer up. If a missed wakeup is the only problem,
> >> hackbench should continue.
> >>
> >> The more info you can provide the better ;)
> > 
> > I was also able to reproduce the hackbench hang with the parameters
> > mentioned earlier (threads and processes) on the kernel from master.
> > 
> 
> Thank you for reporting your observations!
> 
> If you are able to reproduce it reliably, could you please give the
> below diff posted by Swapnil from the parallel thread [1] a try:
> 
> diff --git a/fs/pipe.c b/fs/pipe.c
> index ce1af7592780..a1931c817822 100644
> --- a/fs/pipe.c
> +++ b/fs/pipe.c
> @@ -417,9 +417,19 @@ static inline int is_packetized(struct file *file)
>   /* Done while waiting without holding the pipe lock - thus the READ_ONCE() */
>   static inline bool pipe_writable(const struct pipe_inode_info *pipe)
>   {
> -    unsigned int head = READ_ONCE(pipe->head);
> -    unsigned int tail = READ_ONCE(pipe->tail);
>       unsigned int max_usage = READ_ONCE(pipe->max_usage);
> +    unsigned int head, tail;
> +
> +    tail = READ_ONCE(pipe->tail);
> +    /*
> +     * Since the unsigned arithmetic in this lockless preemptible context
> +     * relies on the fact that the tail can never be ahead of head, read
> +     * the head after the tail to ensure we've not missed any updates to
> +     * the head. Reordering the reads can cause wraparounds and give the
> +     * illusion that the pipe is full.
> +     */
> +    smp_rmb();
> +    head = READ_ONCE(pipe->head);
>   
>       return !pipe_full(head, tail, max_usage) ||
>           !READ_ONCE(pipe->readers);
> ---
> 
> We've been running hackbench for a while now with the above diff and we
> haven't run into a hang yet. Sorry for the troubles and thank you again.

No problem at all.

Along with the patch above, I tried reproducing the problem for about 40
minutes and no hangs found. Before that hackbench would hang within 5
minutes or so.

-- 
Rgrds, legion


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-03 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-02 14:07 [PATCH] pipe_read: don't wake up the writer if the pipe is still full Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-02 16:20 ` WangYuli
2025-01-02 16:46   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-04  8:42 ` Christian Brauner
2025-01-31  9:49 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-01-31 13:23   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-31 20:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-02 17:01     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-02 18:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-02 19:32         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-04 11:17         ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-03  9:05       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-02-04 13:49         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-24  9:26 ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-24 14:24   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-24 18:36     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-25 14:26       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-25 11:57     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-26  5:55       ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-26 11:38         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-26 17:56           ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-26 18:12             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-03 13:00       ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-03 15:46         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-03 17:18           ` Alexey Gladkov [this message]
2025-02-26 13:18     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-26 13:21       ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-26 17:16         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 16:18       ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-27 16:34         ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-27 21:12         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-28  5:58           ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-28 14:30             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-28 16:33               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-03  9:46                 ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-03-03 14:37                   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 14:51                     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 15:31                       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-03 17:54                         ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 18:11                           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-03 18:33                             ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 18:55                               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-03 19:06                                 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 20:27                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-03 20:46                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04  5:31                                     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04  6:32                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 12:54                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04 13:25                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04 18:28                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 22:11                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-05  4:40                                         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-05  4:52                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 13:51                                     ` [PATCH] fs/pipe: Read pipe->{head,tail} atomically outside pipe->mutex K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04 18:36                                       ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-04 19:03                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-05 15:31                                     ` [PATCH] pipe_read: don't wake up the writer if the pipe is still full Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-05 16:50                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06  9:48                                         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-06 14:42                                           ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-05 16:40                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06  8:35                                       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-06 17:59                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06  9:28                                       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-06 11:39                                       ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] pipe: Convert pipe->{head,tail} to unsigned short K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 11:39                                         ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] fs/pipe: Limit the slots in pipe_resize_ring() K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 12:28                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-06 15:26                                             ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 11:39                                         ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] fs/splice: Atomically read pipe->{head,tail} in opipe_prep() K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 11:39                                         ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] treewide: pipe: Convert all references to pipe->{head,tail,max_usage,ring_size} to unsigned short K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 12:32                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-06 12:41                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-06 15:33                                               ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 18:04                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06 14:27                                             ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-03 18:32                           ` [PATCH] pipe_read: don't wake up the writer if the pipe is still full K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04  5:22                             ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-03 16:49                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04  5:06                   ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-04  5:35                     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04 10:29                       ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-04 12:34                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04 23:35                           ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-04 23:49                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-05  4:56                               ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-05 11:44                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-05 22:46                                   ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-06  9:30                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07  6:08                                       ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-07  6:24                                         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-07 10:46                                           ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-07 11:29                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07 12:34                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07 23:56                                                 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-09 14:01                                                   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-09 17:02                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-10 10:49                                                     ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-10 11:09                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-10 11:37                                                         ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-10 12:43                                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-10 23:33                                                             ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-11  0:26                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-11  6:54                                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                               ` <20250311112922.3342-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2025-03-11 11:53                                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07 11:26                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 12:50   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 13:52     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 15:59     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-27 16:28       ` Oleg Nesterov

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