From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C8FC678DB for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2023 07:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229813AbjCGHZY (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Mar 2023 02:25:24 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57336 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229582AbjCGHZX (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Mar 2023 02:25:23 -0500 Received: from casper.infradead.org (casper.infradead.org [IPv6:2001:8b0:10b:1236::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C341A3608E; Mon, 6 Mar 2023 23:25:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=casper.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=dWgWiOp+lFwUMcA943xYoHJ4crmTLqH97hUpLQ+w6eA=; b=dmn9kH/U7C/uQGaDhxU8xgC3in z2FqMqaGBARLtf8Oaz0mGhKTHH2SkpR/+2U8hLfwybv0APBlhwY2MMjPeZaer0+RpWKVg6xr6QuCD I+XdV092WK2AXRpWA256HWNDEPTkDMWs7qvmNLXQGWM4SfSV+D1Y5/fSCTnSvYDGJnKtmT8IvSoSo HG5NUDb3a3OZ2+301W5vaphpX2M/KUdjCPfx4CXbFP7rI+K1jD1lz8sSz/PlVYHLZjp5AxIYdoKnT rG6Jysjr0ENV88QrXrcuKFOENbfbJf1VJNlh60ZOYdVsD/Spr+wgVkKao27FUXn8NeLeBLeS/YD2+ UwCUCKMQ==; Received: from willy by casper.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1pZRhD-00676A-Uo; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 07:25:16 +0000 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 07:25:15 +0000 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Kent Overstreet Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] bcachefs Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 02:46:31PM -0500, Kent Overstreet wrote: > I'd like to talk more about where things are at, long term goals, and > finally upstreaming this beast. We don't have any rules about when we decide to upstream a new filesystem. There are at least four filesystems considering inclusion right now; bcachefs, SSDFS, composefs and nvfs. Every new filesystem imposes certain costs on other developers (eg those who make sweeping API changes, *cough*). I don't think we've ever articulated a clear set of criteria, and maybe we can learn from the recent pain of accepting ntfs3 in the upstream kernel.