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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: AUTOSEL process
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 16:02:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZAzsV5qkfxu3nxjv@sashalap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZAzh7l8qWtkeh/KK@sol.localdomain>

On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 12:17:50PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
>On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 01:26:57PM -0500, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> I'm getting a bunch of suggestions and complaints that I'm not implementing
>> those suggestions fast enough on my spare time.
>
>BTW, the "I don't have enough time" argument is also a little frustrating
>because you are currently insisting on doing AUTOSEL at all, at the current
>sensitivity that picks up way too many commits.  I can certainly imagine that
>that uses a lot of your time!  But, many contributors are telling you that
>AUTOSEL is actually *worse than nothing* currently.
>
>So to some extent this is a self-inflicted problem.  You are *choosing* to spend
>your precious time running in-place with something that is not working well,
>instead of putting AUTOSEL on pause or turning down the sensitivity to free up
>time while improvements to the process are worked on.
>
>(And yes, I know there are many stable patches besides AUTOSEL, and it's a lot
>of work, and I'm grateful for what you do.  I am *just* talking about AUTOSEL
>here.  And yes, I agree that AUTOSEL is needed in principle, so there's no need
>to re-hash the arguments for why it exists.  It just needs some improvements.)

Just to make sure I'm sending the right message: I'd *love* to improve
it, but I need help. I'm not pushing back on your ideas, I'm asking for
help with their implementation.

Maybe I'm putting words in Greg's mouth, but I think we both would
ideally want to standardize around a single set of tools and scripts,
it's just the case that both of us started with different set of
problems we were trying to solve, and so our tooling evolved
independently.

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-11 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230226034256.771769-1-sashal@kernel.org>
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 07/21] fs: Use CHECK_DATA_CORRUPTION() when kernel bugs are detected Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 12/21] fs/super.c: stop calling fscrypt_destroy_keyring() from __put_super() Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  4:07   ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-26  5:30     ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-26 19:24       ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-26 19:33         ` Slade Watkins
2023-02-27 14:18         ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-27 17:47           ` AUTOSEL process Eric Biggers
2023-02-27 18:06             ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-27 20:39               ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-27 21:38                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-27 22:35                   ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-27 22:59                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-28  0:52                       ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-28  1:25                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-28  4:25                           ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-30  0:08                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-30 14:05                           ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-30 17:22                             ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-30 17:50                               ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-28  0:32                     ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-28  1:53                       ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-28  3:41                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-28 10:41                           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-02-28 11:28                             ` Greg KH
2023-03-01  2:05                               ` Slade Watkins
2023-03-01  5:13                                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-01  6:09                                   ` Greg KH
2023-03-01  7:22                                     ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-01  7:40                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-01  8:31                                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-01  8:43                                           ` Greg KH
2023-03-01  6:06                                 ` Greg KH
2023-03-01  7:05                                   ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-01 10:31                               ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-03-01 13:26                               ` Mark Brown
2023-02-28 17:03                           ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-10 23:07                           ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 13:41                             ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-11 15:54                               ` James Bottomley
2023-03-11 18:07                                 ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-12 19:03                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-07 21:18               ` Pavel Machek
2023-03-07 21:45                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11  6:25                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-11  8:11                     ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-11 11:45                       ` Pavel Machek
2023-03-11 12:29                         ` Greg KH
2023-03-21 12:41                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-03-11 14:06                     ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-11 16:16                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-11 17:48                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 18:26                           ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-11 18:54                             ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 19:01                               ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 21:14                               ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-12  8:04                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-03-12 16:00                                   ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-13 17:41                               ` Greg KH
2023-03-13 18:54                                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-14 18:26                                   ` Greg KH
2023-03-11 20:17                             ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 21:02                               ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2023-03-12  4:23                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-11 18:33                           ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-11 19:24                             ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 19:46                               ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 20:19                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-11 20:59                                   ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-11 20:11                               ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-11 20:53                                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-12  4:32                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-12  5:21                                     ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-12  5:48                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-12  7:42                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-03-12 13:34                                         ` Mark Brown
2023-03-12 15:57                                         ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-12 13:55                                 ` Mark Brown
2023-03-11 22:38                       ` David Laight
2023-03-12  4:41                         ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-12  5:09                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-14 14:12                             ` Jan Kara
2023-03-13  3:37             ` Bagas Sanjaya

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