From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F26CC77B7F for ; Wed, 17 May 2023 07:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230156AbjEQHpW (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2023 03:45:22 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:41968 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230154AbjEQHpS (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2023 03:45:18 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [IPv6:2607:7c80:54:3::133]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEC12118; Wed, 17 May 2023 00:45:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=vium4kzZwZijke38DwhAMJr0846uD/O6movHx6mFnao=; b=pcNydiRAb2YicDVJWxYVscV2Vy 12fpDoJ6FLMerw70YFritnAS3eCgLQ9zUTqx4VGqvAZhT4Do6xJSyRwcHqe4kDZM+ACpb1OxAgj5z BmTGnmBJBsoT79w5cHfSiAqWnAjuv/9HCrBFGT31kKL6AN+6JKaOP7F2yebsnwtlIgTyeOk2J0ZUX cXp1mOS29tvJRO/HH9xDaVP8M4PEHGS6scRDMofMTL9bEn+EvhDswi/o5eUR2ALg6GekkABkPGzFR 9i7+Pmh+J7YRtBFWc6CNlqlDXQetHvoGevvuHEWo/Evb6PJ315FtBNXkJkFwebEPyQ/ORgnI/3Oqw fd+c34aA==; Received: from hch by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1pzBqT-008iol-2G; Wed, 17 May 2023 07:45:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 00:45:13 -0700 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Christian Brauner Cc: Jeff Layton , Ondrej Valousek , "trondmy@hammerspace.com" , "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: A pass-through support for NFSv4 style ACL Message-ID: References: <20230516124655.82283-1-jlayton@kernel.org> <20230516-notorisch-geblickt-6b591fbd77c1@brauner> <20230517-herstellen-zitat-21eeccd36558@brauner> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230517-herstellen-zitat-21eeccd36558@brauner> X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 09:42:59AM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote: > I have no idea about the original flame war that ended RichACLs in > additition to having no clear clue what RichACLs are supposed to > achieve. My current knowledge extends to "Christoph didn't like them". Christoph certainly doesn't like Rich ACLs, as do many other people. But the deal block was that the patchset: - totally duplicated the VFS level ACL handling instead of having a common object for Posix and the new ACLs - did add even more mess to the already horrible xattr interface instead of adding syscalls.