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From: Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>
To: Hao Xu <hao.xu@linux.dev>
Cc: io-uring@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Stefan Roesch <shr@fb.com>, Clay Harris <bugs@claycon.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] io_uring: add support for getdents
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 01:10:41 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZK7QgRyUIHNC8Nk6@codewreck.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <858c3f16-ffb3-217e-b5d6-fcc63ef9c401@linux.dev>

Hao Xu wrote on Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 03:53:24PM +0800:
> > > +		if (file_count(file) > 1)
> > 
> > I was curious about this so I found it's basically what __fdget_pos does
> > before deciding it should take the f_pos_lock, and as such this is
> > probably correct... But if someone can chime in here: what guarantees
> > someone else won't __fdget_pos (or equivalent through this) the file
> > again between this and the vfs_getdents call?
> > That second get would make file_count > 1 and it would lock, but lock
> > hadn't been taken here so the other call could get the lock without
> > waiting and both would process getdents or seek or whatever in
> > parallel.
> > 
> 
> This file_count(file) is atomic_read, so I believe no race condition here.

I don't see how that helps in the presence of another thread getting the
lock after we possibly issued a getdents without the lock, e.g.

t1 call io_uring getdents here
t1 sees file_count(file) == 1 and skips getting lock
t1 starts issuing vfs_getdents [... processing]
t2 calls either io_uring getdents or getdents64 syscall
t2 gets the lock, since it wasn't taken by t1 it can be obtained
t2 issues another vfs_getdents

Christian raised the same issue so I'll leave this to his part of the
thread for reply, but I hope that clarified my concern.


-----

BTW I forgot to point out: this dropped the REWIND bit from my patch; I
believe some form of "seek" is necessary for real applications to make
use of this (for example, a web server could keep the fd open in a LRU
and keep issuing readdir over and over again everytime it gets an
indexing request); not having rewind means it'd need to close and
re-open the fd everytime which doesn't seem optimal.

A previous iteration discussed that real seek is difficult and not
necessarily needed to I settled for rewind, but was there a reason you
decided to stop handling that?

My very egoistical personal use case won't require it, so I can just say
I don't care here, but it would be nice to have a reason explained at
some point

-- 
Dominique Martinet | Asmadeus

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-12 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-11 11:40 [PATCH v3 0/3] io_uring getdents Hao Xu
2023-07-11 11:40 ` [PATCH 1/3] fs: split off vfs_getdents function of getdents64 syscall Hao Xu
2023-07-11 13:02   ` Ammar Faizi
2023-07-12  8:03     ` Hao Xu
2023-07-12 13:55       ` Ammar Faizi
2023-07-13  4:17         ` Hao Xu
2023-07-11 23:41   ` Dave Chinner
2023-07-11 23:50     ` Jens Axboe
2023-07-12 11:14       ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-11 11:40 ` [PATCH 2/3] vfs_getdents/struct dir_context: add flags field Hao Xu
2023-07-12 11:31   ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-12 16:02     ` Dominique Martinet
2023-07-13  4:12       ` Hao Xu
2023-07-11 11:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] io_uring: add support for getdents Hao Xu
2023-07-11 12:15   ` Dominique Martinet
2023-07-12  7:53     ` Hao Xu
2023-07-12 16:10       ` Dominique Martinet [this message]
2023-07-13  4:05         ` Hao Xu
2023-07-13  4:40           ` Hao Xu
2023-07-13  4:50           ` Dominique Martinet
2023-07-12  8:01     ` Hao Xu
2023-07-12 15:27   ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-13  4:35     ` Hao Xu
2023-07-13  7:10       ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-13  9:06         ` Hao Xu
2023-07-13 15:14           ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-16 11:57             ` Hao Xu
2023-07-18  6:55               ` Hao Xu
2023-07-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] io_uring getdents Dave Chinner
2023-07-11 23:51   ` Jens Axboe
2023-07-12  0:53     ` Dominique Martinet
2023-07-12  0:56       ` Jens Axboe
2023-07-12  3:16         ` Hao Xu
2023-07-12  3:12       ` Hao Xu
2023-07-12  3:19   ` Hao Xu

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