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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org>,
	Sungjong Seo <sj1557.seo@samsung.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Konstantin Komarov <almaz.alexandrovich@paragon-software.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	ntfs3@lists.linux.dev, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/13] xfs: document the invalidate_bdev call in invalidate_bdev
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:22:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNUAp8FJIKU1/sTn@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230809220545.1308228-8-hch@lst.de>

On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 03:05:39PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> +	/*
> +	 * Udev is triggered whenever anyone closes a block device or unmounts
> +	 * a file systemm on a block device.
> +	 * The default udev rules invoke blkid to read the fs super and create
> +	 * symlinks to the bdev under /dev/disk.  For this, it uses buffered
> +	 * reads through the page cache.
> +	 *
> +	 * xfs_db also uses buffered reads to examine metadata.  There is no
> +	 * coordination between xfs_db and udev, which means that they can run
> +	 * concurrently.  Note there is no coordination between the kernel and
> +	 * blkid either.
> +	 *
> +	 * On a system with 64k pages, the page cache can cache the superblock
> +	 * and the root inode (and hence the root directory) with the same 64k
> +	 * page.  If udev spawns blkid after the mkfs and the system is busy
> +	 * enough that it is still running when xfs_db starts up, they'll both
> +	 * read from the same page in the pagecache.
> +	 *
> +	 * The unmount writes updated inode metadata to disk directly.  The XFS
> +	 * buffer cache does not use the bdev pagecache, nor does it invalidate
> +	 * the pagecache on umount.  If the above scenario occurs, the pagecache
> +	 * no longer reflects what's on disk, xfs_db reads the stale metadata,
> +	 * and fails to find /a.  Most of the time this succeeds because closing
> +	 * a bdev invalidates the page cache, but when processes race, everyone
> +	 * loses.
> +	 */
>  	if (mp->m_logdev_targp && mp->m_logdev_targp != mp->m_ddev_targp) {
>  		blkdev_issue_flush(mp->m_logdev_targp->bt_bdev);
>  		invalidate_bdev(mp->m_logdev_targp->bt_bdev);

While I have no complaints with this as a commit message, it's just too
verbose for an inline comment, IMO.  Something pithier and more generic
would seem appropriate.  How about:

	/*
	 * Prevent userspace (eg blkid or xfs_db) from seeing stale data.
	 * XFS is not coherent with the bdev's page cache.
	 */

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-10 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-09 22:05 s_fs_info and ->kill_sb revisited v2 Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 01/13] xfs: reformat the xfs_fs_free prototype Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-10  8:53   ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-10 15:51     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-11  7:24       ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 02/13] xfs: remove a superfluous s_fs_info NULL check in xfs_fs_put_super Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 03/13] xfs: free the xfs_mount in ->kill_sb Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 04/13] xfs: remove xfs_blkdev_put Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 05/13] xfs: close the RT and log block devices in xfs_free_buftarg Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 06/13] xfs: close the external block devices in xfs_mount_free Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-09 22:34   ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 07/13] xfs: document the invalidate_bdev call in invalidate_bdev Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-09 22:39   ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-10  8:20     ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-10 15:53     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-10 15:22   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-08-10 15:52     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-10 16:00       ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-10 15:57     ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 08/13] ext4: close the external journal device in ->kill_sb Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 09/13] exfat: don't RCU-free the sbi Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-10 13:01   ` Namjae Jeon
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 10/13] exfat: free the sbi and iocharset in ->kill_sb Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-10 13:02   ` Namjae Jeon
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 11/13] ntfs3: rename put_ntfs ntfs3_free_sbi Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 12/13] ntfs3: don't call sync_blockdev in ntfs_put_super Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-09 22:05 ` [PATCH 13/13] ntfs3: free the sbi in ->kill_sb Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-07 13:05   ` Guenter Roeck
2023-09-07 13:54     ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-07 15:23       ` Guenter Roeck
2023-09-07 15:49         ` Christian Brauner

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