From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695CDEE57E4 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2023 08:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229844AbjIHIkE (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Sep 2023 04:40:04 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:43098 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233049AbjIHIkE (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Sep 2023 04:40:04 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [IPv6:2607:7c80:54:3::133]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B3C11BEA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2023 01:39:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=yVA95xW2Ie/ug2jQfFDc5ddfNVZM0aNIhd4I9iNmjSo=; b=Yy/12rCry74UVbjrJyam9lO4L9 /3xDzBZnBjVcO2a1dg+qggwHeku+bmBsBw7Zo8RIaKDAkzZBAVdKvjlC+J2hyYUuImIMqZjujb0Ae NqnVXvCFBQefMufRawRd7XirecFiSioP0nWEWKo8Wh82SfDxULlJ7zsDw8+15KeUUhrUlpsGsizYH vl1VBz2Cd+EZGxco8FjIVfrXie4nyBYdC1W4JrqSQfL7TSQWY2+370K+qdzH+JIl7HfUPbX0U2l9+ F36R5VWn12WhvBEdPEeFJ4cYfEFIgCTXnRPBwkpKpEPlPZDRcKyunuYaD3r14D7oiGCob2GDzXJJQ iezPy3Qg==; Received: from hch by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1qeX1r-00DKhb-09; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 08:39:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2023 01:39:51 -0700 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Dave Chinner , Guenter Roeck , Christoph Hellwig , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS/KERNEL SUMMIT] Trust and maintenance of file systems Message-ID: References: <8718a8a3-1e62-0e2b-09d0-7bce3155b045@roeck-us.net> <20230906215327.18a45c89@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230906215327.18a45c89@gandalf.local.home> X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 09:53:27PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > Anyway, what about just having read-only be the minimum for supporting a > file system? We can say "sorry, due to no one maintaining this file system, > we will no longer allow write access." But I'm guessing that just > supporting reading an old file system is much easier than modifying one > (wasn't that what we did with NTFS for the longest time?) read-only is just as annoying, because all our normal test infrastruture doesn't work for that at all. So you'd need not only a test harness for that, but also a lot of publically shared images and/or a tool to generate filled images.