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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/17] alpha: Implement xor_unlock_is_negative_byte
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 16:59:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZQXQ5OnAgisxVyKs@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whbj+pVGhJTcQCLhY8KZJNomWOKM=s-GZSpK_G=G4fXEA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 07:01:14PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sept 2023 at 17:38, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 05:27:17PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > On Fri, 15 Sept 2023 at 11:37, Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
> > > <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +       "1:     ldl_l %0,%4\n"
> > > > +       "       xor %0,%3,%0\n"
> > > > +       "       xor %0,%3,%2\n"
> > > > +       "       stl_c %0,%1\n"
> > >
> > > What an odd thing to do.
> > >
> > > Why don't you just save the old value? That double xor looks all kinds
> > > of strange, and is a data dependency for no good reason that I can
> > > see.
> > >
> > > Why isn't this "ldl_l + mov %0,%2 + xor + stl_c" instead?
> > >
> > > Not that I think alpha matters, but since I was looking through the
> > > series, this just made me go "Whaa?"
> >
> > Well, this is my first time writing Alpha assembler ;-)  I stole this
> > from ATOMIC_OP_RETURN:
> >
> >         "1:     ldl_l %0,%1\n"                                          \
> >         "       " #asm_op " %0,%3,%2\n"                                 \
> >         "       " #asm_op " %0,%3,%0\n"                                 \
> 
> Note how that does "orig" assignment first (ie the '%2" destination is
> the first instruction), unlike your version.

Wow.  I totally missed that I'd transposed those two lines.  I read
it back with the lines in the order that they should have been in.
Every time I read it.  I was wondering why you were talking about a data
dependency, and I just couldn't see it.  With the lines in the order that
they're actually in, it's quite obvious and totally not what I meant.
Of course, it doesn't matter which order they're in from the point of
view of testing the waiters bit since we don't change the waiters bit.

> Does any of this matter? Nope. It's alpha. There's probably a handful
> of machines, and it's maybe one extra cycle. It's really the oddity
> that threw me.

I'll admit to spending far more time on the m68k version of this than
the alpha version ;-)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-16 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-15 18:36 [PATCH 00/17] Add folio_end_read Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 01/17] iomap: Hold state_lock over call to ifs_set_range_uptodate() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 02/17] iomap: Protect read_bytes_pending with the state_lock Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-16  0:11   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-16  0:15     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-16 15:50     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 03/17] mm: Add folio_end_read() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 04/17] ext4: Use folio_end_read() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 05/17] buffer: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 06/17] iomap: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 07/17] bitops: Add xor_unlock_is_negative_byte() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 08/17] alpha: Implement xor_unlock_is_negative_byte Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-16  0:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-16  0:38     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-16  2:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-16  2:14         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-16 15:59         ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-09-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 09/17] m68k: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-16 13:11   ` Greg Ungerer
2023-09-16 14:34     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-18 14:37       ` Greg Ungerer
2023-09-20  7:45         ` Greg Ungerer
2023-09-20 16:58           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19 13:23       ` David Laight
2023-09-19 14:26         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 14:35           ` David Laight
2023-09-19 15:14             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 15:22               ` David Laight
2023-09-19 15:47                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 15:57                   ` David Laight
2023-09-20  7:15                     ` Greg Ungerer
2023-09-20  7:22               ` Greg Ungerer
2023-10-02 20:07                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-03 14:14                   ` Greg Ungerer
2023-10-03 20:07                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-04 12:06                       ` Greg Ungerer
2023-09-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 10/17] mips: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 11/17] powerpc: Implement arch_xor_unlock_is_negative_byte on 32-bit Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 12/17] riscv: Implement xor_unlock_is_negative_byte Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 13/17] s390: Implement arch_xor_unlock_is_negative_byte Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 14/17] mm: Delete checks for xor_unlock_is_negative_byte() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 15/17] mm: Add folio_xor_flags_has_waiters() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 16/17] mm: Make __end_folio_writeback() return void Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 17/17] mm: Use folio_xor_flags_has_waiters() in folio_end_writeback() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-16  0:31 ` [PATCH 00/17] Add folio_end_read Linus Torvalds

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