From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Niklas Cassel <Niklas.Cassel@wdc.com>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] Pass data temperature information to zoned UFS devices
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 20:27:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZQyZEqXJymyFWlKV@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8781636a-57ac-4dbd-8ec6-b49c10c81345@acm.org>
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 07:27:08AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 9/21/23 00:46, Niklas Cassel wrote:
> > Considering that this API (F_GET_FILE_RW_HINT / F_SET_FILE_RW_HINT) was
> > previously only used by NVMe (NVMe streams).
>
> That doesn't sound correct to me. I think support for this API was added
> in F2FS in November 2017 (commit 4f0a03d34dd4 ("f2fs: apply write hints
> to select the type of segments for buffered write")). That was a few
> months after NVMe stream support was added (June 2017) by commit
> f5d118406247 ("nvme: add support for streams and directives").
>
> > Should NVMe streams be brought back? Yes? No?
>
> From commit 561593a048d7 ("Merge tag 'for-5.18/write-streams-2022-03-18'
> of git://git.kernel.dk/linux-block"): "This removes the write streams
> support in NVMe. No vendor ever really shipped working support for this,
> and they are not interested in supporting it."
It sounds like UFS is at the same stage that NVMe got to -- standard
exists, no vendor has committed to actually shipping it. Isn't bringing
it back a little premature?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-21 19:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-20 19:14 [PATCH 00/13] Pass data temperature information to zoned UFS devices Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 01/13] fs/f2fs: Restore the whint_mode mount option Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 10:32 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-03 19:33 ` Bean Huo
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 02/13] fs: Restore support for F_GET_FILE_RW_HINT and F_SET_FILE_RW_HINT Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 10:35 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-03 19:42 ` Bean Huo
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 03/13] fs: Restore kiocb.ki_hint Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 10:45 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-02 16:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 04/13] block: Restore write hint support Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 11:23 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-02 17:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 18:08 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-03 19:52 ` Bean Huo
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 05/13] scsi: core: Query the Block Limits Extension VPD page Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 11:29 ` Avri Altman
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 06/13] scsi_proto: Add struct io_group_descriptor Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 11:41 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-02 17:16 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 18:16 ` Avri Altman
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 07/13] sd: Translate data lifetime information Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 13:11 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-02 17:42 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 5:48 ` Avri Altman
2023-10-03 16:58 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 16:59 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 08/13] scsi_debug: Reduce code duplication Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 6:49 ` Avri Altman
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 09/13] scsi_debug: Support the block limits extension VPD page Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 10/13] scsi_debug: Rework page code error handling Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 11/13] scsi_debug: Rework subpage " Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 12/13] scsi_debug: Implement the IO Advice Hints Grouping mode page Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:14 ` [PATCH 13/13] scsi_debug: Maintain write statistics per group number Bart Van Assche
2023-09-20 19:28 ` [PATCH 00/13] Pass data temperature information to zoned UFS devices Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-20 20:46 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-21 7:46 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-09-21 14:27 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-21 15:34 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-09-21 17:00 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-21 19:27 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-09-21 19:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-21 19:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-21 20:11 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-21 20:47 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-09-27 19:14 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-09-27 20:49 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 11:38 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-10-02 11:53 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-10-02 16:33 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-02 19:19 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-10-02 17:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 1:40 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-10-03 17:26 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-03 18:45 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-10-04 3:17 ` Martin K. Petersen
[not found] ` <CGME20230920191557epcas2p34a114957acf221c0d8f60acbb3107c77@epcms2p6>
2023-10-05 11:41 ` [PATCH 01/13] fs/f2fs: Restore the whint_mode mount option Daejun Park
[not found] ` <CGME20230920191549epcas2p35174687f1bebe87c42a658fa6aa57bff@epcms2p7>
2023-10-05 11:43 ` [PATCH 02/13] fs: Restore support for F_GET_FILE_RW_HINT and F_SET_FILE_RW_HINT Daejun Park
[not found] ` <CGME20230920191556epcas2p39b150e6715248b625588a50b333e82e2@epcms2p1>
2023-10-05 11:46 ` [PATCH 04/13] block: Restore write hint support Daejun Park
[not found] ` <CGME20230920191816epcas2p1b30d19aa41e51ffaf7c95f9100ee6311@epcms2p3>
2023-10-05 11:58 ` [PATCH 05/13] scsi: core: Query the Block Limits Extension VPD page Daejun Park
[not found] ` <CGME20230920191554epcas2p2280a25d6b2a7fa81563bd6cf1e75549d@epcms2p8>
2023-10-05 11:59 ` [PATCH 06/13] scsi_proto: Add struct io_group_descriptor Daejun Park
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