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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	Wedson Almeida Filho <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	Wedson Almeida Filho <walmeida@microsoft.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::init_root`
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 12:33:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZTQnpeFcPwMoEcgO@Boquns-Mac-mini.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZTQDztmY0ivPcGO/@casper.infradead.org>

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 06:01:02PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 08:57:30AM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > You're not wrong, my suggestion here had the assumption that write part
> > of ->i_state is atomic (I hadn't look into that). Now a quick look tells
> > it isn't, for example in fs/f2fs/namei.c, there is:
> > 
> > 	inode->i_state |= I_LINKABLE;
> 
> But it doesn't matter what f2fs does to _its_ inodes.  tarfs will never
> see an f2fs inode.  I don't know what the rules are around inode->i_state;

Well, maybe I choose a bad example ;-) I agree that tarfs will never see
an f2fs inode and since tarfs is the only user right now, the data race
should really depend on tarfs right now. But this is general filesystem
Rust API, so it should in theory work with everything. Plus fs/dcache.c
has something similar:

	inode->i_state &= ~I_NEW & ~I_CREATING;

> I'm only an expert on the page cache, not the rest of the VFS.  So
> what are the rules around modifying i_state for the VFS?
> 

Agreed, same question here.

Regards,
Boqun

> 

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-21 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-18 12:24 [RFC PATCH 00/19] Rust abstractions for VFS Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 01/19] rust: fs: add registration/unregistration of file systems Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 15:38   ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-10 18:32     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-25  9:15       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 02/19] rust: fs: introduce the `module_fs` macro Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 03/19] samples: rust: add initial ro file system sample Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-28 16:18   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-10 18:25     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 04/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::super_params` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 16:34   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-28 16:39     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-10-30  8:21       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-30 21:36         ` Alice Ryhl
2023-10-20 15:04   ` Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2024-01-03 12:25   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 05/19] rust: fs: introduce `INode<T>` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-28 18:00   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-03 12:45     ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-03 12:54   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-04  5:20     ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-01-04  9:57       ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-10  9:45     ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-04  5:14   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-01-24 18:17     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 06/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::init_root` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-19 14:30   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-20  0:52     ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-21 13:48       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 15:57         ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-21 17:01           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-21 19:33             ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2023-10-23  5:29               ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-23 12:55                 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-30  2:29                   ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-31 20:49                     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-11-08  4:54                       ` Dave Chinner
2023-11-08  6:15                         ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-20  0:30   ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-23 12:36     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 13:29   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-24  4:07     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 07/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::read_dir` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-21  8:33   ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-03 14:09   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-21 21:00   ` Askar Safin
2024-01-21 21:51     ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 08/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::lookup` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 09/19] rust: folio: introduce basic support for folios Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 17:17   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-18 18:32     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 19:21       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-19 13:25         ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-20  4:11           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-20 15:17             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-23 12:32               ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-23 10:48             ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-23 14:28               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-24 15:04                 ` Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2023-10-23 12:29             ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-21  9:21   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 10/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::read_folio` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-11-07 22:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-07 22:22     ` Al Viro
2023-11-08  0:35       ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-11-08  0:56         ` Al Viro
2023-11-08  2:39           ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 11/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::read_xattr` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 13:06   ` Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2023-10-19 13:35     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 12/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::statfs` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 14:13   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-04  5:33   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-01-24  4:24     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 13/19] rust: fs: introduce more inode types Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 14/19] rust: fs: add per-superblock data Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-25 15:51   ` Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2023-10-26 13:46   ` Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2024-01-03 14:16   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 15/19] rust: fs: add basic support for fs buffer heads Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 14:17   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 16/19] rust: fs: allow file systems backed by a block device Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-21 13:39   ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-24  4:14     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 14:38   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 17/19] rust: fs: allow per-inode data Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-21 13:57   ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-03 14:39   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 18/19] rust: fs: export file type from mode constants Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 19/19] tarfs: introduce tar fs Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 16:57   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-18 17:05     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 17:20       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-18 18:07         ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-24  5:05   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-24  5:23     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-24 18:26       ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-24 21:05         ` Dave Chinner
2024-01-24 21:28           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-24  5:34     ` Gao Xiang
2023-10-18 13:40 ` [RFC PATCH 00/19] Rust abstractions for VFS Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2023-10-18 17:12   ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-29 20:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-31 20:14   ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 18:02     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-03 19:04       ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 19:53         ` Al Viro
2024-01-03 20:38           ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-04  1:49         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-09 18:25           ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-09 19:30             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-03 19:14       ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-03 20:41         ` Al Viro
2024-01-09 19:13           ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-09 19:25             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-09 19:32               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-01-10  7:49                 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-10  7:57                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-01-10 12:56                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-09 22:19               ` Dave Chinner
2024-01-10 19:19                 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-24 13:08                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-01-24 19:49                     ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-05  0:04       ` David Howells
2024-01-05 15:54         ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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