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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] fanotify support for btrfs sub-volumes
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2023 04:25:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUjbPK0oizILoUDl@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1d08a205-b2c5-4276-b271-088facc142ea@suse.com>

On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 06:48:11PM +1030, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> > st_dev has only been very historically about treating something as
> > a device.  For userspae the most important part is that it designates
> > a separate domain for inode numbers.  And that's something that's simply
> > broken in btrfs.
> 
> In fact, I'm not sure if the "treating something as a device" thing is even
> correct long before btrfs.

It never really has been.  There's just two APIs that ever did this,
ustat and the old quotactl.  Both have been deprecated a long time ago
and never hid wide use.

> For example, for an EXT4 fs with external log device. Thankfully it's still
> more or less obvious we would use the device number of the main fs, not the
> log device, but we already had such examples.

More relevant (as the log device never has persistent data) is the XFS
realtime device.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-06 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 13:50 [PATCH 0/3] fanotify support for btrfs sub-volumes Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 13:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] fs: define a new super operation to get fsid Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 13:50 ` [PATCH 2/3] btrfs: implement " Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 13:50 ` [PATCH 3/3] fanotify: support reporting events with fid on btrfs sub-volumes Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 15:34 ` [PATCH 0/3] fanotify support for " Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-25 17:04   ` Jan Kara
2023-10-27  5:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-27 10:58       ` Jan Kara
2023-10-25 21:06   ` Josef Bacik
2023-10-25 23:02     ` Qu Wenruo
2023-10-26  5:49       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-27  5:46     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-27 13:17       ` Josef Bacik
2023-10-27 13:47         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-28  5:57         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-30 13:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-31 12:14           ` Christian Brauner
2023-10-31 12:22             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-31 12:50               ` Christian Brauner
2023-10-31 17:06                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-01  0:03                   ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-03 14:21                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-01  8:16                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-01  8:41                     ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-01  9:52                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-02  5:13                         ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-02  8:53                           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-02  9:48                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-02 12:34                             ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-02 17:07                               ` David Sterba
2023-11-02 20:32                                 ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-03  6:56                                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-03 13:52                                   ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-02 11:07                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-03 14:28                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-03 15:47                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06  7:53                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06  8:18                                   ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-06  9:56                                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:25                                     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2023-11-06 10:03                                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 10:41                                     ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-06 10:59                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:30                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 13:05                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 17:10                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-07  8:58                                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08  7:56                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  8:09                                                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08  8:12                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  8:22                                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08 14:07                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08 15:57                                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:29                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 13:47                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 17:13                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 22:42                                           ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-07  9:06                                             ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08  7:52                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  8:27                                                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08 14:08                                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08 16:16                                                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08 16:20                                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09  6:55                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-09  9:07                                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 14:41                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-10  9:33                                                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-10 10:31                                                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-09  6:53                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  7:51                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08 11:08                                               ` Jan Kara
2023-11-08 14:11                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06  9:03                                 ` Jan Kara
2023-11-06  9:52                                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:22                                     ` Jan Kara
2023-11-03 14:23                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-03 14:22                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-25 17:17 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 18:02   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-26 12:17     ` Jan Kara
2023-10-26 12:36       ` Amir Goldstein

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