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From: Seth Forshee <sforshee@kernel.org>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Mikhalitsyn <aleksandr.mikhalitsyn@canonical.com>,
	mszeredi@redhat.com, stgraber@stgraber.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/9] fuse: basic support for idmapped mounts
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 15:13:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Za7aaIuQDH92jel+@do-x1extreme> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240121-pfeffer-erkranken-f32c63956aac@brauner>

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 06:50:57PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > - We have a small offlist discussion with Christian about adding fs_type->allow_idmap
> > hook. Christian pointed out that it would be nice to have a superblock flag instead like
> > SB_I_NOIDMAP and we can set this flag during mount time if we see that the filesystem does not
> > support idmappings. But, unfortunately, I didn't succeed here because the kernel will
> > know if the filesystem supports idmapping or not after FUSE_INIT request, but FUSE_INIT request
> > is being sent at the end of the mounting process, so the mount and superblock will exist and
> > visible by the userspace in that time. It seems like setting SB_I_NOIDMAP flag, in this
> > case, is too late as a user may do the trick by creating an idmapped mount while it wasn't
> > restricted by SB_I_NOIDMAP. Alternatively, we can introduce a "positive" version SB_I_ALLOWIDMAP
> 
> I see.
> 
> > and a "weak" version of FS_ALLOW_IDMAP like FS_MAY_ALLOW_IDMAP. So if FS_MAY_ALLOW_IDMAP is set,
> > then SB_I_ALLOWIDMAP has to be set on the superblock to allow the creation of an idmapped mount.
> > But that's a matter of our discussion.
> 
> I dislike making adding a struct super_block method. Because it means that we
> call into the filesystem from generic mount code and specifically with the
> namespace semaphore held. If there's ever any network filesystem that e.g.,
> calls to a hung server it will lockup the whole system. So I'm opposed to
> calling into the filesystem here at all. It's also ugly because this is really
> a vfs level change. The only involvement should be whether the filesystem type
> can actually support this ideally.
> 
> I think we should handle this within FUSE. So we allow the creation of idmapped
> mounts just based on FS_ALLOW_IDMAP. And if the server doesn't support the
> FUSE_OWNER_UID_GID_EXT then we simply refuse all creation requests originating
> from an idmapped mount. Either we return EOPNOSUPP or we return EOVERFLOW to
> indicate that we can't represent the owner correctly because the server is
> missing the required extension.

Could fuse just set SB_I_NOIDMAP initially then clear it if the init
reply indicates idmap support? This is like the "weak" FS_ALLOW_IDMAP
option without requiring another file_system_type flag.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-22 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-08 12:08 [PATCH v1 0/9] fuse: basic support for idmapped mounts Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] fs/namespace: introduce fs_type->allow_idmap hook Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] fs/fuse: add FUSE_OWNER_UID_GID_EXT extension Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-03-05 14:38   ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-07-18 19:12     ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-08-29  8:24       ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-08-29 12:08         ` Christian Brauner
2024-08-29 12:17           ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-08-29 12:21             ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-08-29 12:29           ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-08-29 14:39             ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-08-29 15:04               ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-08-29 17:40                 ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-08-29 18:58                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-08-30 10:57                     ` Christian Brauner
2024-08-30 13:49                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-09-03 15:22                         ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] fs/fuse: support idmap for mkdir/mknod/symlink/create Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] fs/fuse: support idmapped getattr inode op Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-20 15:21   ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 15:42     ` Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] fs/fuse: support idmapped ->permission " Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] fs/fuse: support idmapped ->setattr op Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-20 15:23   ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 15:48     ` Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-30  9:52       ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] fs/fuse: drop idmap argument from __fuse_get_acl Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-20 15:24   ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 15:55     ` Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] fs/fuse: support idmapped ->set_acl Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] fs/fuse: allow idmapped mounts Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-21 17:50 ` [PATCH v1 0/9] fuse: basic support for " Christian Brauner
2024-01-22 21:13   ` Seth Forshee [this message]
2024-01-23 15:45     ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:52   ` Alexander Mikhalitsyn

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