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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: willy@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	hcochran@kernelspring.com, mszeredi@redhat.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] mm: correct calculation of cgroup wb's bg_thresh in wb_over_bg_thresh
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 11:00:23 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZbgR5-yOn7f5MtcD@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a747dc7d-f24a-08bd-d969-d3fb35e151b7@huaweicloud.com>

Hello,

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:01:47AM +0800, Kemeng Shi wrote:
> Hi Tejun, thanks for reply. For cgroup wb, it will belongs to a global wb
> domain and a cgroup domain. I agree the way how we calculate wb's threshold
> in global domain as you described above. This patch tries to fix calculation
> of wb's threshold in cgroup domain which now is wb_calc_thresh(mdtc->wb,
> mdtc->bg_thresh)), means:
> (wb bandwidth) / (system bandwidth) * (*cgroup domain threshold*)
> The cgroup domain threshold is
> (memory of cgroup domain) / (memory of system) * (system threshold).
> Then the wb's threshold in cgroup will be smaller than expected.
> 
> Consider following domain hierarchy:
>                 global domain (100G)
>                 /                 \
>         cgroup domain1(50G)     cgroup domain2(50G)
>                 |                 |
> bdi            wb1               wb2
> Assume wb1 and wb2 has the same bandwidth.
> We have global domain bg_thresh 10G, cgroup domain bg_thresh 5G.
> Then we have:
> wb's thresh in global domain = 10G * (wb bandwidth) / (system bandwidth)
> = 10G * 1/2 = 5G
> wb's thresh in cgroup domain = 5G * (wb bandwidth) / (system bandwidth)
> = 5G * 1/2 = 2.5G
> At last, wb1 and wb2 will be limited at 2.5G, the system will be limited
> at 5G which is less than global domain bg_thresh 10G.
> 
> After the fix, threshold in cgroup domain will be:
> (wb bandwidth) / (cgroup bandwidth) * (cgroup domain threshold)
> The wb1 and wb2 will be limited at 5G, the system will be limited at
> 10G which equals to global domain bg_thresh 10G.
> 
> As I didn't take a deep look into memory cgroup, please correct me if
> anything is wrong. Thanks!
> > Also, how is this tested? Was there a case where the existing code
> > misbehaved that's improved by this patch? Or is this just from reading code?
>
> This is jut from reading code. Would the case showed above convince you
> a bit. Look forward to your reply, thanks!.

So, the explanation makes some sense to me but can you please construct a
case to actually demonstrate the problem and fix? I don't think it'd be wise
to apply the change without actually observing the code change does what it
says it does.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-29 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-23 18:33 [PATCH 0/5] Fix and cleanups to page-writeback Kemeng Shi
2024-01-23 18:33 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: enable __wb_calc_thresh to calculate dirty background threshold Kemeng Shi
2024-01-23 18:33 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: correct calculation of cgroup wb's bg_thresh in wb_over_bg_thresh Kemeng Shi
2024-01-23 20:43   ` Tejun Heo
2024-01-24  2:01     ` Kemeng Shi
2024-01-29 21:00       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2024-02-08  9:26         ` Kemeng Shi
2024-02-08 19:32           ` Tejun Heo
2024-02-18  2:35             ` Kemeng Shi
2024-02-20 17:34               ` Tejun Heo
2024-01-23 18:33 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: call __wb_calc_thresh instead of wb_calc_thresh " Kemeng Shi
2024-01-23 18:33 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: remove redundant check in wb_min_max_ratio Kemeng Shi
2024-01-23 18:33 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm: remove stale comment __folio_mark_dirty Kemeng Shi
2024-01-23 14:07   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-23 20:46 ` [PATCH 0/5] Fix and cleanups to page-writeback Tejun Heo

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