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From: Isaac Manjarres <isaacmanjarres@google.com>
To: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	saravanak@google.com, Manish Varma <varmam@google.com>,
	Kelly Rossmoyer <krossmo@google.com>,
	kernel-team@android.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] fs: Improve eventpoll logging to stop indicting timerfd
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 10:43:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZnsBzfSPZlrhpB1t@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANDhNCqhJRLgvhAong-5zjsfwk2sL7pNbK0EqWsPcaA+AuzxDQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 11:03:43AM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 10:28 AM 'Isaac J. Manjarres' via kernel-team
> <kernel-team@android.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Manish Varma <varmam@google.com>
> >
> > timerfd doesn't create any wakelocks, but eventpoll can.  When it does,
> > it names them after the underlying file descriptor, and since all
> > timerfd file descriptors are named "[timerfd]" (which saves memory on
> > systems like desktops with potentially many timerfd instances), all
> > wakesources created as a result of using the eventpoll-on-timerfd idiom
> > are called... "[timerfd]".
> >
> > However, it becomes impossible to tell which "[timerfd]" wakesource is
> > affliated with which process and hence troubleshooting is difficult.
> 
> While your explanation above is understandable, I feel like it might
> benefit from a more concrete example to show why this is problematic?
> It feels like the description gets into the weeds pretty quickly and
> makes it hard to understand the importance of the change.

> 
> Again the N:P.F mapping is clear, but maybe including a specific
> before and after example would help?
> 
> Additionally, once you have this better named wakesource, can you
> provide a specific example to illustrate a bit on how this
> specifically helps the troubleshooting that was difficult before?
> 
> thanks
> -john

Hi John,

Thanks for your feedback on this! I'm more than happy to add more
details to the commit text. I'll go ahead and add an example to
showcase a scenario where the proposed changes make debugging easier.

I'll send out v6 of the patch soon.

--Isaac

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-25 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-06 17:28 [PATCH v5] fs: Improve eventpoll logging to stop indicting timerfd Isaac J. Manjarres
2024-06-24 17:36 ` Isaac Manjarres
2024-06-24 18:03 ` John Stultz
2024-06-25 17:43   ` Isaac Manjarres [this message]
2024-06-25 17:58 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-03 21:37   ` Isaac Manjarres
2024-07-04 12:44     ` Mateusz Guzik

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