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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Zhang Yi <yi.zhang@huaweicloud.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org,
	hch@infradead.org, brauner@kernel.org, yi.zhang@huawei.com,
	chengzhihao1@huawei.com, yukuai3@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] iomap: drop unnecessary state_lock when setting ifs uptodate bits
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 16:48:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZrD0TKDHWhwiEoz_@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240805140023.inte2rxlhumkfvrh@quack3>

On Mon, Aug 05, 2024 at 04:00:23PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> Actually add Matthew to CC ;)

It's OK, I was reading.

FWIW, I agree with Dave; the locking complexity in this patch was
horrendous.  I was going to get to the same critique he had, but I first
wanted to understand what the thought process was.

> > > Ha, right, I missed the comments of this function, it means that there are
> > > some special callers that hold table lock instead of folio lock, is it
> > > pte_alloc_map_lock?
> > > 
> > > I checked all the filesystem related callers and didn't find any real
> > > caller that mark folio dirty without holding folio lock and that could
> > > affect current filesystems which are using iomap framework, it's just
> > > a potential possibility in the future, am I right?

Filesystems are normally quite capable of taking the folio lock to
prevent truncation.  It's the MM code that needs the "or holding the
page table lock" get-out clause.  I forget exactly which callers it
is; I worked through them a few times.  It's not hard to put a
WARN_ON_RATELIMIT() into folio_mark_dirty() and get a good sampling.

There's also a "or holding a buffer_head locked" get-out clause that
I'm not sure is documented anywhere, but obviously that doesn't apply
to the iomap code.

> > There used to be quite a few places doing that. Now that I've checked all
> > places I was aware of got actually converted to call folio_mark_dirty() under
> > a folio lock (in particular all the cases happening on IO completion, folio
> > unmap etc.). Matthew, are you aware of any place where folio_mark_dirty()
> > would be called for regular file page cache (block device page cache is in a
> > different situation obviously) without folio lock held?

Yes, the MM code definitely applies to regular files as well as block
devices.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-05 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-31  9:12 [PATCH 0/6] iomap: some minor non-critical fixes and improvements when block size < folio size Zhang Yi
2024-07-31  9:13 ` [PATCH 1/6] iomap: correct the range of a partial dirty clear Zhang Yi
2024-07-31  9:13 ` [PATCH 2/6] iomap: support invalidating partial folios Zhang Yi
2024-07-31  9:13 ` [PATCH 3/6] iomap: advance the ifs allocation if we have more than one blocks per folio Zhang Yi
2024-07-31  9:13 ` [PATCH 4/6] iomap: correct the dirty length in page mkwrite Zhang Yi
2024-07-31  9:13 ` [PATCH 5/6] iomap: drop unnecessary state_lock when setting ifs uptodate bits Zhang Yi
2024-07-31 16:52   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-01  1:52     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-01  4:24       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-01  9:19         ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-02  0:05   ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-02  2:57     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-02  6:29       ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-02 11:13         ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-05 12:42           ` Jan Kara
2024-08-05 14:00             ` Jan Kara
2024-08-05 15:48               ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2024-08-07 11:39                 ` Zhang Yi
2024-07-31  9:13 ` [PATCH 6/6] iomap: drop unnecessary state_lock when changing ifs dirty bits Zhang Yi

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