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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 18/29] arm64: add POE signal support
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:45:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZsSsAdGc99I10cMn@e133380.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240820140606.GA1011855@e124191.cambridge.arm.com>

On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 03:06:06PM +0100, Joey Gouly wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 02:54:50PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 10:54:41AM +0100, Joey Gouly wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 06:09:06PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 04:09:26PM +0100, Dave P Martin wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 02:18:15PM +0100, Joey Gouly wrote:
> > > > > > That's a lot of words to say, or ask, do you agree with the approach of only
> > > > > > saving POR_EL0 in the signal frame if num_allocated_pkeys() > 1?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Joey
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...So..., given all the above, it is perhaps best to go back to
> > > > > dumping POR_EL0 unconditionally after all, unless we have a mechanism
> > > > > to determine whether pkeys are in use at all.
> > > > 
> > > > Ah, I can see why checking for POR_EL0_INIT is useful. Only checking for
> > > > the allocated keys gets confusing with pkey 0.
> > > > 
> > > > Not sure what the deal is with pkey 0. Is it considered allocated by
> > > > default or unallocatable? If the former, it implies that pkeys are
> > > > already in use (hence the additional check for POR_EL0_INIT). In
> > > > principle the hardware allows us to use permissions where the pkeys do
> > > > not apply but we'd run out of indices and PTE bits to encode them, so I
> > > > think by default we should assume that pkey 0 is pre-allocated.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > You can consider pkey 0 allocated by default. You can actually pkey_free(0), there's nothing stopping that.
> > 
> > Is that intentional?
> 
> I don't really know? It's intentional from my side in that it, I allow it,
> because it doesn't look like x86 or PPC block pkey_free(0).
> 
> I found this code that does pkey_free(0), but obviously it's a bit of a weird test case:
> 
> 	https://github.com/ColinIanKing/stress-ng/blob/master/test/test-pkey-free.c#L29

Of course, pkey 0 will still be in use for everything, and if the man
pages are to be believed, the PKRU bits for pkey 0 may no longer be
maintained after this call...

So this test is possibly a little braindead.  A clear use-case for
freeing pkey 0 would be more convincing.

In the meantime though, it makes most sense for arm64 to follow
the precedent set by other arches on this (as you did).

[...]

Cheers
---Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-20 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-03 13:01 [PATCH v4 00/29] arm64: Permission Overlay Extension Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 01/29] powerpc/mm: add ARCH_PKEY_BITS to Kconfig Joey Gouly
2024-05-06  8:57   ` Michael Ellerman
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 02/29] x86/mm: " Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 16:40   ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 03/29] mm: use ARCH_PKEY_BITS to define VM_PKEY_BITN Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 16:41   ` Dave Hansen
2024-07-15  7:53   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 04/29] arm64: disable trapping of POR_EL0 to EL2 Joey Gouly
2024-07-15  7:47   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-25 15:44   ` Dave Martin
2024-08-06 10:04     ` Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 05/29] arm64: cpufeature: add Permission Overlay Extension cpucap Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 16:58   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-06-21 17:01   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-06-21 17:02     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-15  7:47   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 06/29] arm64: context switch POR_EL0 register Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:03   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-06-21 17:07   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-15  8:27   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-16 13:21     ` Mark Brown
2024-07-18 14:16     ` Joey Gouly
2024-07-22 13:40   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-07-25 15:46   ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 07/29] KVM: arm64: Save/restore POE registers Joey Gouly
2024-05-29 15:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-08-16 14:55   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-08-16 15:13     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-16 15:32       ` Marc Zyngier
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 08/29] KVM: arm64: make kvm_at() take an OP_AT_* Joey Gouly
2024-05-29 15:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-07-15  8:36   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 09/29] KVM: arm64: use `at s1e1a` for POE Joey Gouly
2024-05-29 15:50   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-07-15  8:45   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 10/29] arm64: enable the Permission Overlay Extension for EL0 Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:04   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-15  9:13   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-15 20:16   ` Mark Brown
2024-07-25 15:49   ` Dave Martin
2024-08-01 16:04     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-01 16:31       ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 11/29] arm64: re-order MTE VM_ flags Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:04   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-15  9:21   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 12/29] arm64: add POIndex defines Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:05   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-15  9:26   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 13/29] arm64: convert protection key into vm_flags and pgprot values Joey Gouly
2024-05-28  6:54   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2024-06-19 16:45     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-04 12:47       ` Joey Gouly
2024-07-08 17:22         ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-16  9:05   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-16  9:34     ` Joey Gouly
2024-07-25 15:49   ` Dave Martin
2024-08-01 10:55     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-01 11:01       ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 14/29] arm64: mask out POIndex when modifying a PTE Joey Gouly
2024-07-16  9:10   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 15/29] arm64: handle PKEY/POE faults Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 16:57   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-09 13:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-07-16 10:13   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-25 15:57   ` Dave Martin
2024-08-01 16:01     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-06 13:33       ` Dave Martin
2024-08-06 13:43         ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-06 14:38           ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 16/29] arm64: add pte_access_permitted_no_overlay() Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:15   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-16 10:21   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 17/29] arm64: implement PKEYS support Joey Gouly
2024-05-28  6:55   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2024-05-28 11:26     ` Joey Gouly
2024-05-31 14:57   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-05-31 15:21     ` Joey Gouly
2024-05-31 16:27       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-06-17 13:40         ` Florian Weimer
2024-06-17 14:51           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-07-08 17:53             ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-09  8:32               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-07-09  8:52                 ` Florian Weimer
2024-07-11  9:50               ` Joey Gouly
2024-07-18 14:45                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-07-05 16:59   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-22 13:39     ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-07-09 13:07   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-07-16 11:40     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-23  4:22   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-25 16:12   ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 18/29] arm64: add POE signal support Joey Gouly
2024-05-28  6:56   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2024-05-31 16:39     ` Mark Brown
2024-06-03  9:21       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2024-07-25 15:58         ` Dave Martin
2024-07-25 18:11           ` Mark Brown
2024-07-26 16:14             ` Dave Martin
2024-07-26 17:39               ` Mark Brown
2024-07-29 14:27                 ` Dave Martin
2024-07-29 14:41                   ` Mark Brown
2024-07-05 17:04   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-09 13:08   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-07-22  9:16   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-25 16:00   ` Dave Martin
2024-08-01 15:54     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-01 16:22       ` Dave Martin
2024-08-06 10:35         ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-06 14:31           ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-06 15:00             ` Dave Martin
2024-08-14 15:03             ` Catalin Marinas
2024-08-15 13:18               ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-15 15:09                 ` Dave Martin
2024-08-15 15:24                   ` Mark Brown
2024-08-19 17:09                   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-08-20  9:54                     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-20 13:54                       ` Dave Martin
2024-08-20 14:06                         ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-20 14:45                           ` Dave Martin [this message]
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 19/29] arm64: enable PKEY support for CPUs with S1POE Joey Gouly
2024-07-16 10:47   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-25 15:48     ` Dave Martin
2024-07-25 16:00   ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 20/29] arm64: enable POE and PIE to coexist Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:16   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-16 10:41   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-16 13:46     ` Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 21/29] arm64/ptrace: add support for FEAT_POE Joey Gouly
2024-07-16 10:35   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 22/29] arm64: add Permission Overlay Extension Kconfig Joey Gouly
2024-07-05 17:05   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-09 13:08   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-07-16 11:02   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 23/29] kselftest/arm64: move get_header() Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 24/29] selftests: mm: move fpregs printing Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 25/29] selftests: mm: make protection_keys test work on arm64 Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 26/29] kselftest/arm64: add HWCAP test for FEAT_S1POE Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 27/29] kselftest/arm64: parse POE_MAGIC in a signal frame Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 28/29] kselftest/arm64: Add test case for POR_EL0 signal frame records Joey Gouly
2024-05-29 15:51   ` Mark Brown
2024-07-05 19:34     ` Shuah Khan
2024-07-09 13:10   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 29/29] KVM: selftests: get-reg-list: add Permission Overlay registers Joey Gouly
2024-05-05 14:41 ` [PATCH v4 00/29] arm64: Permission Overlay Extension Mark Brown
2024-05-28 11:30 ` Joey Gouly

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