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From: Knut Omang <knut.omang@oracle.com>
To: Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 07:48:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1b88d5add15d43de0468c32d9a2427629337abb.camel@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6d6e91ec-33d3-830b-4895-4d7a20ba7d45@gmail.com>

On Thu, 2019-05-09 at 22:18 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote:
> On 5/9/19 4:40 PM, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 2019-05-09 5:30 p.m., Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> >> On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 04:20:05PM -0600, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The second item, arguably, does have significant overlap with kselftest.
> >>> Whether you are running short tests in a light weight UML environment or
> >>> higher level tests in an heavier VM the two could be using the same
> >>> framework for writing or defining in-kernel tests. It *may* also be valuable
> >>> for some people to be able to run all the UML tests in the heavy VM
> >>> environment along side other higher level tests.
> >>>
> >>> Looking at the selftests tree in the repo, we already have similar items to
> >>> what Kunit is adding as I described in point (2) above. kselftest_harness.h
> >>> contains macros like EXPECT_* and ASSERT_* with very similar intentions to
> >>> the new KUNIT_EXECPT_* and KUNIT_ASSERT_* macros.
> >>>
> >>> However, the number of users of this harness appears to be quite small. Most
> >>> of the code in the selftests tree seems to be a random mismash of scripts
> >>> and userspace code so it's not hard to see it as something completely
> >>> different from the new Kunit:
> >>>
> >>> $ git grep --files-with-matches kselftest_harness.h *
> >>
> >> To the extent that we can unify how tests are written, I agree that
> >> this would be a good thing.  However, you should note that
> >> kselftest_harness.h is currently assums that it will be included in
> >> userspace programs.  This is most obviously seen if you look closely
> >> at the functions defined in the header files which makes calls to
> >> fork(), abort() and fprintf().
> > 
> > Ah, yes. I obviously did not dig deep enough. Using kunit for
> > in-kernel tests and kselftest_harness for userspace tests seems like
> > a sensible line to draw to me. Trying to unify kernel and userspace
> > here sounds like it could be difficult so it's probably not worth
> > forcing the issue unless someone wants to do some really fancy work
> > to get it done.
> > 
> > Based on some of the other commenters, I was under the impression
> > that kselftests had in-kernel tests but I'm not sure where or if they
> > exist.
> 
> YES, kselftest has in-kernel tests.  (Excuse the shouting...)
> 
> Here is a likely list of them in the kernel source tree:
> 
> $ grep module_init lib/test_*.c
> lib/test_bitfield.c:module_init(test_bitfields)
> lib/test_bitmap.c:module_init(test_bitmap_init);
> lib/test_bpf.c:module_init(test_bpf_init);
> lib/test_debug_virtual.c:module_init(test_debug_virtual_init);
> lib/test_firmware.c:module_init(test_firmware_init);
> lib/test_hash.c:module_init(test_hash_init);	/* Does everything */
> lib/test_hexdump.c:module_init(test_hexdump_init);
> lib/test_ida.c:module_init(ida_checks);
> lib/test_kasan.c:module_init(kmalloc_tests_init);
> lib/test_list_sort.c:module_init(list_sort_test);
> lib/test_memcat_p.c:module_init(test_memcat_p_init);
> lib/test_module.c:static int __init test_module_init(void)
> lib/test_module.c:module_init(test_module_init);
> lib/test_objagg.c:module_init(test_objagg_init);
> lib/test_overflow.c:static int __init test_module_init(void)
> lib/test_overflow.c:module_init(test_module_init);
> lib/test_parman.c:module_init(test_parman_init);
> lib/test_printf.c:module_init(test_printf_init);
> lib/test_rhashtable.c:module_init(test_rht_init);
> lib/test_siphash.c:module_init(siphash_test_init);
> lib/test_sort.c:module_init(test_sort_init);
> lib/test_stackinit.c:module_init(test_stackinit_init);
> lib/test_static_key_base.c:module_init(test_static_key_base_init);
> lib/test_static_keys.c:module_init(test_static_key_init);
> lib/test_string.c:module_init(string_selftest_init);
> lib/test_ubsan.c:module_init(test_ubsan_init);
> lib/test_user_copy.c:module_init(test_user_copy_init);
> lib/test_uuid.c:module_init(test_uuid_init);
> lib/test_vmalloc.c:module_init(vmalloc_test_init)
> lib/test_xarray.c:module_init(xarray_checks);
> 
> 
> > If they do exists, it seems like it would make sense to
> > convert those to kunit and have Kunit tests run-able in a VM or
> > baremetal instance.
> 
> They already run in a VM.
> 
> They already run on bare metal.
> 
> They already run in UML.
> 
> This is not to say that KUnit does not make sense.  But I'm still trying
> to get a better description of the KUnit features (and there are
> some).

FYI, I have a master student who looks at converting some of these to KTF, such as for
instance the XArray tests, which lended themselves quite good to a semi-automated
conversion. 

The result is also a somewhat more compact code as well as the flexibility 
provided by the Googletest executor and the KTF frameworks, such as running selected
tests, output formatting, debugging features etc.

Knut

> -Frank


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-10  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-01 23:01 [PATCH v2 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] kunit: test: add KUnit test runner core Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] kunit: test: add test resource management API Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] kunit: test: add string_stream a std::stream like string builder Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  1:26   ` shuah
2019-05-03  4:37     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] kunit: test: add kunit_stream a std::stream like logger Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 11:00   ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 20:25     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 21:18       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-03  1:50   ` shuah
2019-05-03  5:48     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] kunit: test: add the concept of expectations Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] kbuild: enable building KUnit Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10  3:03   ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-05-10 10:27     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 10:30       ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-05-10 10:33         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] kunit: test: add initial tests Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 10:58   ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 20:30     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  1:27   ` shuah
2019-05-03  5:18     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] kunit: test: add support for test abort Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  3:14   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-03  6:48     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03 12:33       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-06  8:48         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] kunit: test: add tests for kunit " Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] kunit: test: add the concept of assertions Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] kunit: test: add test managed resource tests Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03 14:34   ` shuah
2019-05-06  9:03     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] kunit: tool: add Python wrappers for running KUnit tests Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 11:02   ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 18:07     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 21:16       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-02 23:45         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  1:45           ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-03  5:36             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03 18:59               ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-03 23:14                 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-04 10:42                   ` Greg KH
2019-05-06  0:19                   ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-06 17:43                     ` Kees Cook
2019-05-06 21:42                       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-06 21:39                     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-07 19:13                       ` Tim.Bird
2019-05-03  6:41           ` Greg KH
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] kunit: defconfig: add defconfigs for building " Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit Brendan Higgins
2019-05-09  5:08   ` Randy Dunlap
2019-05-09 17:38     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] MAINTAINERS: add entry for KUnit the unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03 14:38   ` shuah
2019-05-06  9:18     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] kernel/sysctl-test: Add null pointer test for sysctl.c:proc_dointvec() Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 11:03   ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 18:14     ` Tim.Bird
2019-05-02 18:45       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  6:42         ` Greg KH
2019-05-03 23:41           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-04 10:40             ` Greg KH
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] MAINTAINERS: add proc sysctl KUnit test to PROC SYSCTL section Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 10:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework Greg KH
2019-05-02 11:05   ` Greg KH
2019-05-03  0:41     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 14:04   ` shuah
2019-05-03  0:44     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  3:18 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-07  3:14 ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-07  8:01   ` Greg KH
2019-05-07 15:23     ` shuah
2019-05-09  1:01       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-07 17:22     ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-08 19:17       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-09  0:58       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09  1:44         ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09  2:18           ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-14  8:22         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-09  0:43     ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09  1:58       ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09  2:13         ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09  3:20           ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09 11:52             ` Knut Omang
2019-05-09 13:35               ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09 14:48                 ` Knut Omang
2019-05-09 17:00                 ` Tim.Bird
2019-05-09 17:42                   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-09 18:12                   ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09 21:42                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09 22:20                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-09 23:30                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09 23:40                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-10  4:47                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-10  5:18                             ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-10  5:48                               ` Knut Omang [this message]
2019-05-10  8:12                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-10 10:23                                   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 12:12                                     ` Knut Omang
2019-05-10 20:54                                       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 22:18                                         ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-11  6:17                                           ` Knut Omang
2019-05-14  6:39                                             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 21:59                                     ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-11  6:43                                       ` Knut Omang
2019-05-14  8:00                                         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 11:36                                   ` Knut Omang
2019-05-10 16:17                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-10 22:13                                 ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-14  8:38                                   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-15  0:14                                     ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-15  0:26                                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-10 21:52                         ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-14 20:54                           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 21:12                       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-11 17:33                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-13 14:44                           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-14  6:04                             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 12:05                               ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-14 18:36                                 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-15  7:41                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-22 21:38                                     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-23  8:40                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-15  0:26                           ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-15  4:28                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-10  5:11           ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-10 10:43             ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-10 21:05               ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09 15:19 ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-05-10 10:25   ` Brendan Higgins

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