From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 00:13:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aEp-HYht82wLT7Vl@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c48e17c4b575375069a4bd965f346499e66ac3a.camel@kernel.org>
On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 04:29:58PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> I think if we can crack the problem of receiving WRITE payloads into an
> already-aligned buffer, then that becomes much more feasible. I think
> that's a solveable problem.
It's called RDMA :)
To place write payloads into page aligned buffer, the NIC needs to split
the various headers from the payload. The data placement part of RDMA
naturally takes care of that. If you want to do it without TCP, you need
hardware that is aware of the protocol headers up to the XDR level. I
know and the days where NFS was a big thing there were NICs that could do
this offload with the right firmware, and I wouldn't be surprised if
that's still the case.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-12 7:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-10 20:57 [PATCH 0/6] NFSD: add enable-dontcache and initially use it to add DIO support Mike Snitzer
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 6:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 10:44 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 13:04 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 13:56 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 14:31 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 19:18 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 20:29 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 21:36 ` need SUNRPC TCP to receive into aligned pages [was: Re: [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO] Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 10:28 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-12 11:28 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-12 13:28 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 14:17 ` Benjamin Coddington
2025-06-12 15:56 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 15:58 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 16:12 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 16:32 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-13 5:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 16:22 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-13 5:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-13 9:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-13 13:02 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-16 12:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-16 12:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-16 16:07 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-17 4:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-17 20:26 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-17 22:23 ` [RFC PATCH] lib/iov_iter: remove piecewise bvec length checking in iov_iter_aligned_bvec [was: Re: need SUNRPC TCP to receive into aligned pages] Mike Snitzer
2025-07-03 0:12 ` need SUNRPC TCP to receive into aligned pages [was: Re: [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO] NeilBrown
2025-06-12 7:13 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-06-12 13:15 ` [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 13:21 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 16:00 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-16 13:32 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-16 16:10 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-17 17:22 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-17 17:31 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-19 20:19 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-30 14:50 ` Chuck Lever
2025-07-04 19:46 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-07-04 19:49 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 2/6] NFSD: filecache: add STATX_DIOALIGN and STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN support Mike Snitzer
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 3/6] NFSD: pass nfsd_file to nfsd_iter_read() Mike Snitzer
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 4/6] fs: introduce RWF_DIRECT to allow using O_DIRECT on a per-IO basis Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 6:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 10:51 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 14:17 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 7:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 5/6] NFSD: leverage DIO alignment to selectively issue O_DIRECT reads and writes Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 7:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 12:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 13:30 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-12 7:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 7:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 14:42 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 15:07 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 15:11 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 15:44 ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 20:51 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 7:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 7:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 7:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 6/6] NFSD: issue READs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 12:55 ` [PATCH 0/6] NFSD: add enable-dontcache and initially use it to add DIO support Jeff Layton
2025-06-12 7:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 20:37 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-13 5:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 14:16 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 18:02 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 19:06 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 19:58 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 13:46 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 19:08 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 20:17 ` Chuck Lever
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