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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	ying chen <yc1082463@gmail.com>,
	djwong@kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfs: report a writeback error on a read() call
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 20:56:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFsC2vTJNG7UmfMi@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c77a55f5ab294be222c8abd86c2b8fddabca9f61.camel@kernel.org>

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 02:26:18PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Tue, 2025-06-24 at 07:14 -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 08:32:18PM +0800, ying chen wrote:
> > > Normally, user space returns immediately after writing data to the
> > > buffer cache. However, if an error occurs during the actual disk
> > > write operation, data loss may ensue, and there is no way to report
> > > this error back to user space immediately. Current kernels may report
> > > writeback errors when fsync() is called, but frequent invocations of
> > > fsync() can degrade performance. Therefore, a new sysctl
> > > fs.xfs.report_writeback_error_on_read is introduced, which, when set
> > > to 1, reports writeback errors when read() is called. This allows user
> > > space to be notified of writeback errors more promptly.
> > 
> > That's really kernel wide policy and not something magic done by a
> > single file system.
> 
> ...not to mention that getting an error back on a read for a prior
> writeback error would be completely unexpected by most applications.

Well.  It's somewhat understandable:

	write() (returns success)
	writeback happens, error logged
	memory pressure evicts folio
	read() brings folio into page cache
	attempt to read contents fails, error returned

I'm not sure it's a good solution, but it's plausible.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-24 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAN2Y7hyi1HCrSiKsDT+KD8hBjQmsqzNp71Q9Z_RmBG0LLaZxCA@mail.gmail.com>
2025-06-24 14:14 ` [PATCH] xfs: report a writeback error on a read() call Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-24 18:26   ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-24 19:56     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2025-06-24 20:25       ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-25  2:44   ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-25  7:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-25 10:40       ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-25 11:21         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-25 11:49           ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-25 11:56             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-25 14:06               ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-26  2:41                 ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-26  3:57                   ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-26 10:25                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-26 22:22                       ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-27 21:19                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-26 10:23                   ` Christoph Hellwig

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