From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 708B923182D; Tue, 12 Aug 2025 20:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755032064; cv=none; b=ueTmEc9nCAEnC3LSVT7kyK2DuzBSomaK2LTjsfJj1c0hat9C4q0KwzRV/WYbo0MPU/Tpp2BaDlK2DVXoyqdojL4jqJv8XmPmKUuVW5lmX1QpX4FasNniV90onI23TNZqXrznxOMDr9l+az1sEnVIbL/HbKP/kBNXWUba9GmJhPA= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755032064; c=relaxed/simple; bh=KgNWZ+pw8XzII7439MzptZB2qb8BPXZsxQzFoG3Hwus=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=epwjbzN4kzkkOF1gfG2K1NWAdphhWSasiKCP/CrSdPu5owQlyIvisnH2GlMyA2AILCLQm7apf8WxpGIVqm/0MVAQnivKVqDbRJsFm1UYMjZwoellTN3B17Mkq1T7L6eP4jX42xnYF15LkKMDbM6+elex8mMtQ1YJZ0vOKgZG1aU= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=PvQ+xnbK; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="PvQ+xnbK" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 828C1C4CEF0; Tue, 12 Aug 2025 20:54:23 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1755032064; bh=KgNWZ+pw8XzII7439MzptZB2qb8BPXZsxQzFoG3Hwus=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=PvQ+xnbK+/qTrGhW7tJOpYLcoFJOhEtLPTkH/58f++IrXyUGb1S3oRrRZMDBKS5Eo HfVaBJjnMs873NWs4srhubUdq3V6hvLHl5EL8yIjjwiZm00R0p6S3lv+tNzUAGe7UF U6FnflJ4BXNkI2arHti0ZzqrUxI5qHNZ2SCQKIXRHGRZjE7VI4Rwb45TXwUfpFoaVU EXjDbcotaGl9n4ndlnYaTgALed+OecKLNCR5ufucQ+igxX29KjyajLimUzFkH1JobE G2emw8rLyc9LZqYqgQsZ95gXMO9un9CnNWF5TSwiUrM2ZPTJPP7/comJ1FeApAOBEE Ljzhqfl0KJ5XA== Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 14:54:21 -0600 From: Keith Busch To: Kent Overstreet Cc: Konstantin Shelekhin , admin@aquinas.su, linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, list-bcachefs@carlthompson.net, malte.schroeder@tnxip.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17 Message-ID: References: <3ik3h6hfm4v2y3rtpjshk5y4wlm5n366overw2lp72qk5izizw@k6vxp22uwnwa> <55e623db-ff03-4d33-98d1-1042106e83c6@ftml.net> <46cndpjyrg3ygqyjpg4oaxzodte7uu7uclbubw4jtrzcsfnzgs@sornyndalbvb> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 04:45:48PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 02:38:26PM -0600, Keith Busch wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 04:31:53PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: > > > If you're interested, is it time to do some spec quoting and language > > > lawyering? > > > > If you want to start or restart a thread on the block list specificaly > > for that topic, then sure, happy to spec talk with you. But I don't want > > to chat on this one. I just wanted to know what you were talking about > > because the description seemed underhanded. > > Not underhanded, just straightforward - I've seen the test data, and the > spec seemed pretty clear to me... "the block layer developer who went on a four email rant where he, charitably, misread the spec or the patchset or both" Please revisit the thread and let me know me if you still stand by that description. I've no idea if you're talking about me or one of the other block developers on it, but I frankly don't see anything resembling what you're describing.