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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 07/37] KVM: Introduce KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 08:05:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPpEPZ4YfrRHIkal@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <diqzv7k5emza.fsf@google.com>

On Thu, Oct 23, 2025, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2025, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> >> Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> Found another issue with KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2.
> >> 
> >> KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 was defined to do the same thing as
> >> KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES, but that's wrong since
> >> KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 should indicate the presence of
> >> KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 and struct kvm_memory_attributes2.
> >
> > No?  If no attributes are supported, whether or not KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2
> > exists is largely irrelevant.
> 
> That's true.
> 
> > We can even provide the same -ENOTTY errno by
> > checking that _any_ attributes are supported, i.e. so that doing
> > KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 on KVM without any support whatsoever fails in the
> > same way that KVM with code support but no attributes fails.
> 
> IIUC KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES doesn't fail with -ENOTTY now when there
> are no valid attributes.
> 
> Even if there's no valid attributes (as in
> kvm_supported_mem_attributes() returns 0), it's possible to call
> KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES with .attributes set to 0, which will be a
> no-op, but will return 0.
> 
> I think this is kind of correct behavior since .attributes = 0 is
> actually a valid expression for "I want this range to be shared", and
> for a VM that doesn't support private memory, it's a valid expression.
> 
> 
> The other way that there are "no attributes" would be if there are no
> /VM/ attributes, in which case KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES, sent to as a
> vm ioctl, will return -ENOTTY.

Ya, this is what I was trying to say with "_any_ attributes are supported".  I.e.
by "any" I meant "any attributes in KVM for VMs vs. gmems", not "any attributes
for this specific VM/gmem instance".

> > In other words, I don't see why it can't do both.  Even if we can't massage the
> > right errno, I would much rather KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 enumerate the set of
> 
> Did you mean KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 in the line above?

Doh, yes.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-23 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-17 20:11 [RFC PATCH v1 00/37] guest_memfd: In-place conversion support Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce per-gmem attributes, use to guard user mappings Ackerley Tng
2025-10-27 13:27   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/37] KVM: Rename KVM_GENERIC_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES to KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/37] KVM: Enumerate support for PRIVATE memory iff kvm_arch_has_private_mem is defined Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/37] KVM: Stub in ability to disable per-VM memory attribute tracking Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Wire up kvm_get_memory_attributes() to per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Update kvm_gmem_populate() to use gmem attributes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/37] KVM: Introduce KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 Ackerley Tng
2025-10-22 15:21   ` Steven Price
2025-10-22 16:51     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-22 22:45       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-22 23:30         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-23 14:01           ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-23 15:05             ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-10-24 14:36               ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-24 15:11                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-24 16:41                   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-24 17:45                     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-27 12:48                       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Don't set FGP_ACCESSED when getting folios Ackerley Tng
2025-10-27 13:39   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Skip LRU for guest_memfd folios Ackerley Tng
2025-10-27 13:56   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Enable INIT_SHARED on guest_memfd for x86 Coco VMs Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Add support for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/37] KVM: Move KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES config definition to x86 Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/37] KVM: Let userspace disable per-VM mem attributes, enable per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/37] KVM: selftests: Create gmem fd before "regular" fd when adding memslot Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/37] KVM: selftests: Rename guest_memfd{,_offset} to gmem_{fd,offset} Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/37] KVM: selftests: Add support for mmap() on guest_memfd in core library Ackerley Tng
2025-10-24 16:48   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-24 18:18     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-27 12:51       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/37] KVM: selftests: Update framework to use KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/37] KVM: selftests: Add helpers for calling ioctls on guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 19/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test basic single-page conversion flow Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 20/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test conversion flow when INIT_SHARED Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 21/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test indexing in guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 22/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test conversion before allocation Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 23/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Convert with allocated folios in different layouts Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 24/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test precision of conversion Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 25/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test that truncation does not change shared/private status Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 26/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test that shared/private status is consistent across processes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 23:33   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 27/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test conversion with elevated page refcount Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 28/37] KVM: selftests: Reset shared memory after hole-punching Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 29/37] KVM: selftests: Add selftests global for guest memory attributes capability Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 30/37] KVM: selftests: Provide function to look up guest_memfd details from gpa Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 31/37] KVM: selftests: Provide common function to set memory attributes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 32/37] KVM: selftests: Check fd/flags provided to mmap() when setting up memslot Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 33/37] KVM: selftests: Make TEST_EXPECT_SIGBUS thread-safe Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 34/37] KVM: selftests: Update private_mem_conversions_test to mmap() guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 35/37] KVM: selftests: Add script to exercise private_mem_conversions_test Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 36/37] KVM: selftests: Update pre-fault test to work with per-guest_memfd attributes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 37/37] KVM: selftests: Update private memory exits test work with per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng

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