From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
Cc: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 07/37] KVM: Introduce KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 08:11:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPuXCV0Aof0zihW9@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <diqzqzuse58c.fsf@google.com>
On Fri, Oct 24, 2025, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> [...snip...]
> >> 
> 
> I've been thinking more about this:
> 
>   #ifdef CONFIG_KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES
>   	case KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2:
>   	case KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES:
>   		if (!vm_memory_attributes)
>   			return 0;
>   
>   		return kvm_supported_mem_attributes(kvm);
>   #endif
> 
> And the purpose of adding KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 is that
> KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 tells userspace that
> KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 is available iff there are valid
> attributes.
> 
> (So there's still a purpose)
> 
> Without valid attributes, userspace can't tell if it should use
> KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES or the 2 version.
To do what?  If there are no attributes, userspace can't do anything useful anyways.
> I also added KVM_CAP_GUEST_MEMFD_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES, which tells
> userspace the valid attributes when calling KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2
> on a guest_memfd:
Ya, and that KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 is supported on guest_memfd.
>   #ifdef CONFIG_KVM_GUEST_MEMFD
>   	case KVM_CAP_GUEST_MEMFD:
>   		return 1;
>   	case KVM_CAP_GUEST_MEMFD_FLAGS:
>   		return kvm_gmem_get_supported_flags(kvm);
>   	case KVM_CAP_GUEST_MEMFD_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES:
>   		if (vm_memory_attributes)
>   			return 0;
>   
>   		return kvm_supported_mem_attributes(kvm);
>   #endif
>   
> So to set memory attributes, userspace should
Userspace *can*.  User could also decide it only wants to support guest_memfd
attributes, e.g. because the platform admins controls the entire stack and built
their entire operation around in-place conversion.
>   if (kvm_check_cap(KVM_CAP_GUEST_MEMFD_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES) > 0)
> 	use KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 with guest_memfd
>   else if (kvm_check_cap(KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2) > 0)
>         use KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 with VM fd
>   else if (kvm_check_cap(KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES) > 0)
> 	use KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES with VM fd
>   else
> 	can't set memory attributes
> 
> Something like that?
More or else, ya.
> In selftests there's this, when KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2 was
> introduced:
> 
>   #define TEST_REQUIRE_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2()			\
> 	__TEST_REQUIRE(kvm_has_cap(KVM_CAP_USER_MEMORY2),	\
> 		       "KVM selftests now require KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2 (introduced in v6.8)")
> 
> But looks like there's no direct equivalent for the introduction of
> KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2?
KVM_CAP_USER_MEMORY2 is the equivalent.
There's was no need to enumerate anything beyond yes/no, because
SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2 didn't introduce new flags, it expanded the size of the
structure passed in from userspace so that KVM_CAP_GUEST_MEMFD could be introduced
without breaking backwards compatibility.
> The closest would be to add a TEST_REQUIRE_VALID_ATTRIBUTES() which
> checks KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 or
> KVM_CAP_GUEST_MEMFD_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES before making the vm or
> guest_memfd ioctl respsectively.
Yes.  This is what I did in my (never posted, but functional) version:
@@ -486,6 +488,7 @@ struct kvm_vm *__vm_create(struct vm_shape shape, uint32_t nr_runnable_vcpus,
        }
        guest_rng = new_guest_random_state(guest_random_seed);
        sync_global_to_guest(vm, guest_rng);
+       sync_global_to_guest(vm, kvm_has_gmem_attributes);
 
        kvm_arch_vm_post_create(vm, nr_runnable_vcpus);
 
@@ -2319,6 +2333,8 @@ void __attribute((constructor)) kvm_selftest_init(void)
        guest_random_seed = last_guest_seed = random();
        pr_info("Random seed: 0x%x\n", guest_random_seed);
 
+       kvm_has_gmem_attributes = kvm_has_cap(KVM_CAP_GUEST_MEMFD_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES);
+
        kvm_selftest_arch_init();
 }
 
That way the core library code can pivot on gmem vs. VM attributes without having
to rely on tests to define anything.  E.g.
static inline void vm_mem_set_memory_attributes(struct kvm_vm *vm, uint64_t gpa,
						uint64_t size, uint64_t attrs)
{
	if (kvm_has_gmem_attributes) {
		off_t fd_offset;
		uint64_t len;
		int fd;
		fd = kvm_gpa_to_guest_memfd(vm, gpa, &fd_offset, &len);
		TEST_ASSERT(len >= size, "Setting attributes beyond the length of a guest_memfd");
		gmem_set_memory_attributes(fd, fd_offset, size, attrs);
	} else {
		vm_set_memory_attributes(vm, gpa, size, attrs);
	}
}
next prev parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-24 15:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-17 20:11 [RFC PATCH v1 00/37] guest_memfd: In-place conversion support Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce per-gmem attributes, use to guard user mappings Ackerley Tng
2025-10-27 13:27   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/37] KVM: Rename KVM_GENERIC_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES to KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/37] KVM: Enumerate support for PRIVATE memory iff kvm_arch_has_private_mem is defined Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/37] KVM: Stub in ability to disable per-VM memory attribute tracking Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Wire up kvm_get_memory_attributes() to per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Update kvm_gmem_populate() to use gmem attributes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/37] KVM: Introduce KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 Ackerley Tng
2025-10-22 15:21   ` Steven Price
2025-10-22 16:51     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-22 22:45       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-22 23:30         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-23 14:01           ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-23 15:05             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-24 14:36               ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-24 15:11                 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-10-24 16:41                   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-24 17:45                     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-27 12:48                       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Don't set FGP_ACCESSED when getting folios Ackerley Tng
2025-10-27 13:39   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Skip LRU for guest_memfd folios Ackerley Tng
2025-10-27 13:56   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Enable INIT_SHARED on guest_memfd for x86 Coco VMs Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/37] KVM: guest_memfd: Add support for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/37] KVM: Move KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES config definition to x86 Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/37] KVM: Let userspace disable per-VM mem attributes, enable per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/37] KVM: selftests: Create gmem fd before "regular" fd when adding memslot Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/37] KVM: selftests: Rename guest_memfd{,_offset} to gmem_{fd,offset} Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/37] KVM: selftests: Add support for mmap() on guest_memfd in core library Ackerley Tng
2025-10-24 16:48   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-24 18:18     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-27 12:51       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/37] KVM: selftests: Update framework to use KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:11 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/37] KVM: selftests: Add helpers for calling ioctls on guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 19/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test basic single-page conversion flow Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 20/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test conversion flow when INIT_SHARED Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 21/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test indexing in guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 22/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test conversion before allocation Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 23/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Convert with allocated folios in different layouts Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 24/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test precision of conversion Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 25/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test that truncation does not change shared/private status Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 26/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test that shared/private status is consistent across processes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 23:33   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 27/37] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd: Test conversion with elevated page refcount Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 28/37] KVM: selftests: Reset shared memory after hole-punching Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 29/37] KVM: selftests: Add selftests global for guest memory attributes capability Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 30/37] KVM: selftests: Provide function to look up guest_memfd details from gpa Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 31/37] KVM: selftests: Provide common function to set memory attributes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 32/37] KVM: selftests: Check fd/flags provided to mmap() when setting up memslot Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 33/37] KVM: selftests: Make TEST_EXPECT_SIGBUS thread-safe Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 34/37] KVM: selftests: Update private_mem_conversions_test to mmap() guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 35/37] KVM: selftests: Add script to exercise private_mem_conversions_test Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 36/37] KVM: selftests: Update pre-fault test to work with per-guest_memfd attributes Ackerley Tng
2025-10-17 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 37/37] KVM: selftests: Update private memory exits test work with per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng
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