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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org>
Cc: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>,  Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	 Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	 GNU libc development <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] man/man2/close.2: CAVEATS: Document divergence from POSIX.1-2024
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2026 23:23:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aW1dE9j91WAte1gf@devuan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8c47e10a-be82-4d5b-a45e-2526f6e95123@app.fastmail.com>

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Hi Zack and others,

Just a gentle ping.  It would be nice to have an agreement for some
patch.


Have a lovely night!
Alex

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 02:10:57PM -0400, Zack Weinberg wrote:
> Taking everything said in this thread into account, I have attempted to
> wordsmith new language for the close(2) manpage.  Please let me know
> what you think, and please help me with the bits marked in square
> brackets. I can make this into a proper patch for the manpages
> when everyone is happy with it.
> 
> zw
> 
> ---
> 
> DESCRIPTION
>     ... existing text ...
> 
>     close() always succeeds.  That is, after it returns, _fd_ has
>     always been disconnected from the open file it formerly referred
>     to, and its number can be recycled to refer to some other file.
>     Furthermore, if _fd_ was the last reference to the underlying
>     open file description, the resources associated with the open file
>     description will always have been scheduled to be released.
> 
>     However, close may report _delayed errors_ from a previous I/O
>     operation.  Therefore, its return value should not be ignored.
> 
> RETURN VALUE
>     close() returns zero if there are no delayed errors to report,
>     or -1 if there _might_ be delayed errors.
> 
>     When close() returns -1, check _errno_ to see what the situation
>     actually is.  Most, but not all, _errno_ codes indicate a delayed
>     I/O error that should be reported to the user.  See ERRORS and
>     NOTES for more detail.
> 
>     [QUERY: Is it ever possible to get delayed errors on close() from
>     a file that was opened with O_RDONLY?  What about a file that was
>     opened with O_RDWR but never actually written to?  If people only
>     have to worry about delayed errors if the file was actually
>     written to, we should say so at this point.
> 
>     It would also be good to mention whether it is possible to get a
>     delayed error on close() even if a previous call to fsync() or
>     fdatasync() succeeded and there haven’t been any more writes to
>     that file *description* (not necessarily via the fd being closed)
>     since.]
> 
> ERRORS
>     EBADF  _fd_ wasn’t open in the first place, or is outside the
>            valid numeric range for file descriptors.
> 
>     EINPROGRESS
>     EINTR
>            There are no delayed errors to report, but the kernel is
>            still doing some clean-up work in the background.  This
>            situation should be treated the same as if close() had
>            returned zero.  Do not retry the close(), and do not report
>            an error to the user.
> 
>     EDQUOT
>     EFBIG
>     EIO
>     ENOSPC
>            These are the most common errno codes associated with
>            delayed I/O errors.  They should be treated as a hard
>            failure to write to the file that was formerly associated
>            with _fd_, the same as if an earlier write(2) had failed
>            with one of these codes.  The file has still been closed!
>            Do not retry the close().  But do report an error to the user.
> 
>     Depending on the underlying file, close() may return other errno
>     codes; these should generally also be treated as delayed I/O errors.
> 
> NOTES
>   Dealing with error returns from close()
> 
>     As discussed above, close() always closes the file.  Except when
>     errno is set to EBADF, EINPROGRESS, or EINTR, an error return from
>     close() reports a _delayed I/O error_ from a previous write()
>     operation.
> 
>     It is vital to report delayed I/O errors to the user; failing to
>     check the return value of close() can cause _silent_ loss of data.
>     The most common situations where this actually happens involve
>     networked filesystems, where, in the name of throughput, write()
>     often returns success before the server has actually confirmed a
>     successful write.
> 
>     However, it is also vital to understand that _no matter what_
>     close() returns, and _no matter what_ it sets errno to, when it
>     returns, _the file descriptor passed to close() has been closed_,
>     and its number is _immediately_ available for reuse by open(2),
>     dup(2), etc.  Therefore, one should never retry a close(), not
>     even if it set errno to a value that normally indicates the
>     operation needs to be retried (e.g. EINTR).  Retrying a close()
>     is a serious bug, particularly in a multithreaded program; if
>     the file descriptor number has already been reused, _that file_
>     will get closed out from under whatever other thread opened it.
> 
>     [Possibly something about fsync/fdatasync here?]
> 
> BUGS
>     Prior to POSIX.1-2024, there was no official guarantee that
>     close() would always close the file descriptor, even on error.
>     Linux has always closed the file descriptor, even on error,
>     but other implementations might not have.
> 
>     The only such implementation we have heard of is HP-UX; at least
>     some versions of HP-UX’s man page for close() said it should be
>     retried if it returned -1 with errno set to EINTR.  (If you know
>     exactly which versions of HP-UX are affected, or of any other
>     Unix where close() doesn’t always close the file descriptor,
>     please contact us about it.)
> 
>     Portable code should nonetheless never retry a failed close(); the
>     consequences of a file descriptor leak are far less dangerous than
>     the consequences of closing a file out from under another thread.

-- 
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-18 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-15 21:33 close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 10:48 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-16 12:11   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 12:52     ` [RFC v1] man/man2/close.2: CAVEATS: Document divergence from POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 13:05       ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:20         ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-17  5:46           ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:03             ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:43               ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:39         ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 14:52           ` Florian Weimer
2025-05-16 15:28             ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 15:28           ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:32           ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:46             ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-23 18:10               ` Zack Weinberg
2025-05-24  2:24                 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 17:05                   ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 17:46                     ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 18:39                       ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 19:00                         ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 20:05                           ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 20:11                       ` Paul Eggert
2026-01-20 20:35                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-20 20:42                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23  0:33                           ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-23  1:02                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23  1:38                               ` Al Viro
2026-01-23 14:44                                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 14:05                               ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-24 19:34                             ` The 8472
2026-01-24 21:39                               ` Rich Felker
2026-01-24 21:57                                 ` The 8472
2026-01-25 15:37                                   ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-26  8:51                                     ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-26 12:15                                     ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 13:53                                       ` The 8472
2026-01-26 15:56                                         ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 16:43                                           ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-26 23:01                                             ` Trevor Gross
2026-01-27  0:49                                               ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-28 16:58                                                 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-02-05  9:34                                                   ` Jan Kara
2025-05-24 19:25                 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-18 22:23                 ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2026-01-20 16:15                   ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 16:36                     ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 19:17                       ` Al Viro
2026-02-06 15:13             ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 12:41   ` close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Mateusz Guzik
2025-05-16 12:41   ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-19 23:19     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-20 13:37       ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-20 23:16         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-16 19:13   ` Al Viro
2025-05-19  9:48   ` Christian Brauner

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