From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org>
Cc: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
GNU libc development <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] man/man2/close.2: CAVEATS: Document divergence from POSIX.1-2024
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2026 23:23:01 +0100 [thread overview]
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Hi Zack and others,
Just a gentle ping. It would be nice to have an agreement for some
patch.
Have a lovely night!
Alex
On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 02:10:57PM -0400, Zack Weinberg wrote:
> Taking everything said in this thread into account, I have attempted to
> wordsmith new language for the close(2) manpage. Please let me know
> what you think, and please help me with the bits marked in square
> brackets. I can make this into a proper patch for the manpages
> when everyone is happy with it.
>
> zw
>
> ---
>
> DESCRIPTION
> ... existing text ...
>
> close() always succeeds. That is, after it returns, _fd_ has
> always been disconnected from the open file it formerly referred
> to, and its number can be recycled to refer to some other file.
> Furthermore, if _fd_ was the last reference to the underlying
> open file description, the resources associated with the open file
> description will always have been scheduled to be released.
>
> However, close may report _delayed errors_ from a previous I/O
> operation. Therefore, its return value should not be ignored.
>
> RETURN VALUE
> close() returns zero if there are no delayed errors to report,
> or -1 if there _might_ be delayed errors.
>
> When close() returns -1, check _errno_ to see what the situation
> actually is. Most, but not all, _errno_ codes indicate a delayed
> I/O error that should be reported to the user. See ERRORS and
> NOTES for more detail.
>
> [QUERY: Is it ever possible to get delayed errors on close() from
> a file that was opened with O_RDONLY? What about a file that was
> opened with O_RDWR but never actually written to? If people only
> have to worry about delayed errors if the file was actually
> written to, we should say so at this point.
>
> It would also be good to mention whether it is possible to get a
> delayed error on close() even if a previous call to fsync() or
> fdatasync() succeeded and there haven’t been any more writes to
> that file *description* (not necessarily via the fd being closed)
> since.]
>
> ERRORS
> EBADF _fd_ wasn’t open in the first place, or is outside the
> valid numeric range for file descriptors.
>
> EINPROGRESS
> EINTR
> There are no delayed errors to report, but the kernel is
> still doing some clean-up work in the background. This
> situation should be treated the same as if close() had
> returned zero. Do not retry the close(), and do not report
> an error to the user.
>
> EDQUOT
> EFBIG
> EIO
> ENOSPC
> These are the most common errno codes associated with
> delayed I/O errors. They should be treated as a hard
> failure to write to the file that was formerly associated
> with _fd_, the same as if an earlier write(2) had failed
> with one of these codes. The file has still been closed!
> Do not retry the close(). But do report an error to the user.
>
> Depending on the underlying file, close() may return other errno
> codes; these should generally also be treated as delayed I/O errors.
>
> NOTES
> Dealing with error returns from close()
>
> As discussed above, close() always closes the file. Except when
> errno is set to EBADF, EINPROGRESS, or EINTR, an error return from
> close() reports a _delayed I/O error_ from a previous write()
> operation.
>
> It is vital to report delayed I/O errors to the user; failing to
> check the return value of close() can cause _silent_ loss of data.
> The most common situations where this actually happens involve
> networked filesystems, where, in the name of throughput, write()
> often returns success before the server has actually confirmed a
> successful write.
>
> However, it is also vital to understand that _no matter what_
> close() returns, and _no matter what_ it sets errno to, when it
> returns, _the file descriptor passed to close() has been closed_,
> and its number is _immediately_ available for reuse by open(2),
> dup(2), etc. Therefore, one should never retry a close(), not
> even if it set errno to a value that normally indicates the
> operation needs to be retried (e.g. EINTR). Retrying a close()
> is a serious bug, particularly in a multithreaded program; if
> the file descriptor number has already been reused, _that file_
> will get closed out from under whatever other thread opened it.
>
> [Possibly something about fsync/fdatasync here?]
>
> BUGS
> Prior to POSIX.1-2024, there was no official guarantee that
> close() would always close the file descriptor, even on error.
> Linux has always closed the file descriptor, even on error,
> but other implementations might not have.
>
> The only such implementation we have heard of is HP-UX; at least
> some versions of HP-UX’s man page for close() said it should be
> retried if it returned -1 with errno set to EINTR. (If you know
> exactly which versions of HP-UX are affected, or of any other
> Unix where close() doesn’t always close the file descriptor,
> please contact us about it.)
>
> Portable code should nonetheless never retry a failed close(); the
> consequences of a file descriptor leak are far less dangerous than
> the consequences of closing a file out from under another thread.
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<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-18 22:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-15 21:33 close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 10:48 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-16 12:11 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 12:52 ` [RFC v1] man/man2/close.2: CAVEATS: Document divergence from POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 13:05 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-17 5:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:43 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:39 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 14:52 ` Florian Weimer
2025-05-16 15:28 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 15:28 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:32 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-23 18:10 ` Zack Weinberg
2025-05-24 2:24 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 17:05 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 17:46 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 18:39 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 19:00 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 20:05 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 20:11 ` Paul Eggert
2026-01-20 20:35 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-20 20:42 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 0:33 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-23 1:02 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 1:38 ` Al Viro
2026-01-23 14:44 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 14:05 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-24 19:34 ` The 8472
2026-01-24 21:39 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-24 21:57 ` The 8472
2026-01-25 15:37 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-26 8:51 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-26 12:15 ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 13:53 ` The 8472
2026-01-26 15:56 ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 16:43 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-26 23:01 ` Trevor Gross
2026-01-27 0:49 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-28 16:58 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-02-05 9:34 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-24 19:25 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-18 22:23 ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2026-01-20 16:15 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 16:36 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 19:17 ` Al Viro
2026-02-06 15:13 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 12:41 ` close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Mateusz Guzik
2025-05-16 12:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-19 23:19 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-20 13:37 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-20 23:16 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-16 19:13 ` Al Viro
2025-05-19 9:48 ` Christian Brauner
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