From: Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.de>
To: Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Luis Henriques <luis@igalia.com>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
Kevin Chen <kchen@ddn.com>,
Horst Birthelmer <hbirthelmer@ddn.com>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Matt Harvey <mharvey@jumptrading.com>,
"kernel-dev@igalia.com" <kernel-dev@igalia.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] fuse: implementation of the FUSE_LOOKUP_HANDLE operation
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 20:55:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWFcmSNLq9XM8KjW@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <645edb96-e747-4f24-9770-8f7902c95456@ddn.com>
On Fri, Jan 09, 2026 at 07:12:41PM +0000, Bernd Schubert wrote:
> On 1/9/26 19:29, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 4:56 PM Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/9/26 16:37, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 at 16:03, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> What about FUSE_CREATE? FUSE_TMPFILE?
> >>>
> >>> FUSE_CREATE could be decomposed to FUSE_MKOBJ_H + FUSE_STATX + FUSE_OPEN.
> >>>
> >>> FUSE_TMPFILE is special, the create and open needs to be atomic. So
> >>> the best we can do is FUSE_TMPFILE_H + FUSE_STATX.
> >>>
> >
> > I thought that the idea of FUSE_CREATE is that it is atomic_open()
> > is it not?
> > If we decompose that to FUSE_MKOBJ_H + FUSE_STATX + FUSE_OPEN
> > it won't be atomic on the server, would it?
>
> Horst just posted the libfuse PR for compounds
> https://github.com/libfuse/libfuse/pull/1418
>
> You can make it atomic on the libfuse side with the compound
> implementation. I.e. you have the option leave it to libfuse to handle
> compound by compound as individual requests, or you handle the compound
> yourself as one request.
>
> I think we need to create an example with self handling of the compound,
> even if it is just to ensure that we didn't miss anything in design.
I actually do have an example that would be suitable.
I could implement the LOOKUP+CREATE as a pseudo atomic operation in passthrough_hp.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bernd
Cheers,
Horst
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Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-12 18:12 [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] fuse: LOOKUP_HANDLE operation Luis Henriques
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] fuse: store index of the variable length argument Luis Henriques
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] fuse: move fuse_entry_out structs out of the stack Luis Henriques
2025-12-15 14:03 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-16 10:30 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/6] fuse: initial infrastructure for FUSE_LOOKUP_HANDLE support Luis Henriques
2025-12-15 13:36 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-15 17:06 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-15 17:11 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-15 18:09 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-15 18:23 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-16 10:36 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 10:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-12-16 11:33 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 11:46 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-12-16 12:02 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] fuse: implementation of the FUSE_LOOKUP_HANDLE operation Luis Henriques
2025-12-15 17:39 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-16 11:48 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-17 10:18 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-17 14:45 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-17 15:02 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-17 16:53 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 8:49 ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-16 8:54 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-17 0:32 ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-17 1:00 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-12-17 2:48 ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-17 9:38 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-17 10:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-12-17 16:17 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 10:39 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-12-16 10:51 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-16 11:07 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 11:57 ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-09 12:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 14:45 ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-09 14:56 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-09 17:07 ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-12 7:43 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-09 15:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 15:03 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-09 15:37 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 15:56 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-09 16:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 17:16 ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-09 18:29 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-09 19:01 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 19:28 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-09 19:12 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-09 19:55 ` Horst Birthelmer [this message]
2026-01-21 17:56 ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-21 18:16 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-21 18:28 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-21 18:36 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-21 18:49 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-21 19:00 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-21 19:03 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-21 19:12 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-22 9:52 ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-22 10:20 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-22 10:35 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-22 10:53 ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-22 10:59 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-22 11:25 ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-22 11:32 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-22 12:34 ` Horst Birthelmer
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] fuse: factor out NFS export related code Luis Henriques
2025-12-14 15:13 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-15 12:05 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] fuse: implementation of export_operations with FUSE_LOOKUP_HANDLE Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 10:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-12-16 17:06 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 20:12 ` Horst Birthelmer
2025-12-17 17:02 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-17 18:02 ` Horst Birthelmer
2025-12-16 11:01 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-16 17:26 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-14 17:02 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] fuse: LOOKUP_HANDLE operation Askar Safin
2025-12-15 12:08 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 0:33 ` Askar Safin
2025-12-16 17:36 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 18:49 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-16 22:45 ` Askar Safin
2025-12-25 7:42 ` Askar Safin
2026-01-04 22:38 ` Askar Safin
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