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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org>
Cc: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	 Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	 Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	 GNU libc development <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] man/man2/close.2: CAVEATS: Document divergence from POSIX.1-2024
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 02:02:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXLGdWGTrYo1s6v7@devuan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ec25e49-841e-4b04-911d-66e3b9ff4471@app.fastmail.com>

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Hi Zack,

On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 07:33:58PM -0500, Zack Weinberg wrote:
[...]

> This is a full top-to-bottom rewrite of the manpage; please speak
> up if you don't like any of my changes to any of it, not just the
> new stuff about delayed errors.  It's written in freeform text for
> ease of reading; I'll do proper troff markup after the text is
> finalized.  (Alejandro, do you have a preference between -man
> and -mdoc markup?)

Strong preference for man(7).

[...]
> ERRORS
>        EBADF  The fd argument was not a valid, open file descriptor.
> 
>        EINTR  The close() call was interrupted by a signal.
>               The file descriptor *may or may not* have been closed,
>               depending on the operating system.  See “Signals and
>               close(),” below.

Punctuation like commas should go outside of the quotes (yes, I know
some styles do that, but we don't).

[...]

> STANDARDS
>        POSIX.1-2024.
> 
> HISTORY
>        The close() system call was present in Unix V7.

That would be simply stated as:

	V7.

We could also document the first POSIX standard, as not all Unix APIs
were standardized at the same time.  Thus:

	V7, POSIX.1-1988.

Thanks!


Have a lovely night!
Alex

> 
>        POSIX.1-2024 clarified the semantics of delayed errors; prior
>        to that revision, it was unspecified whether a close() call
>        that returned a delayed error would close the file descriptor.
>        However, we are not aware of any systems where it didn’t.
> 
> SEE ALSO
>        close_range(2), fcntl(2), fsync(2), fdatasync(2), shutdown(2),
>        unlink(2), open(2), read(2), write(2), fopen(3), fclose(3)

-- 
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-23  1:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-15 21:33 close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 10:48 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-16 12:11   ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 12:52     ` [RFC v1] man/man2/close.2: CAVEATS: Document divergence from POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 13:05       ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:20         ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-17  5:46           ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:03             ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:43               ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:39         ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 14:52           ` Florian Weimer
2025-05-16 15:28             ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 15:28           ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:32           ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:46             ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-23 18:10               ` Zack Weinberg
2025-05-24  2:24                 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 17:05                   ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 17:46                     ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 18:39                       ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 19:00                         ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 20:05                           ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 20:11                       ` Paul Eggert
2026-01-20 20:35                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-20 20:42                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23  0:33                           ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-23  1:02                             ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2026-01-23  1:38                               ` Al Viro
2026-01-23 14:44                                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 14:05                               ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-24 19:34                             ` The 8472
2026-01-24 21:39                               ` Rich Felker
2026-01-24 21:57                                 ` The 8472
2026-01-25 15:37                                   ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-26  8:51                                     ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-26 12:15                                     ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 13:53                                       ` The 8472
2026-01-26 15:56                                         ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 16:43                                           ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-26 23:01                                             ` Trevor Gross
2026-01-27  0:49                                               ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-28 16:58                                                 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-02-05  9:34                                                   ` Jan Kara
2025-05-24 19:25                 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-18 22:23                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-20 16:15                   ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 16:36                     ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 19:17                       ` Al Viro
2026-02-06 15:13             ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 12:41   ` close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Mateusz Guzik
2025-05-16 12:41   ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-19 23:19     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-20 13:37       ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-20 23:16         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-16 19:13   ` Al Viro
2025-05-19  9:48   ` Christian Brauner

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