From: John Groves <John@groves.net>
To: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 05/19] dax: Add dax_operations for use by fs-dax on fsdev dax
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2026 18:49:59 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aZUK8aApUbWXVEYN@groves.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69909e6740f2c_14e0b410047@iweiny-mobl.notmuch>
On 26/02/14 10:10AM, Ira Weiny wrote:
> John Groves wrote:
> > From: John Groves <John@Groves.net>
> >
> > fsdev: Add dax_operations for use by famfs
> >
> > - These methods are based on pmem_dax_ops from drivers/nvdimm/pmem.c
> > - fsdev_dax_direct_access() returns the hpa, pfn and kva. The kva was
> > newly stored as dev_dax->virt_addr by dev_dax_probe().
> > - The hpa/pfn are used for mmap (dax_iomap_fault()), and the kva is used
> > for read/write (dax_iomap_rw())
>
> I thought this driver did not support mmap?
If a daxdev /dev/dax0.0 is in 'famfs' mode (bound to drivers/dax/fsdev.c),
and you open it and try to mmap - you can't - that's true.
This stuff is necessary to support mmap/read/write on famfs files.
>
> > - fsdev_dax_recovery_write() and dev_dax_zero_page_range() have not been
> > tested yet. I'm looking for suggestions as to how to test those.
> > - dax-private.h: add dev_dax->cached_size, which fsdev needs to
> > remember. The dev_dax size cannot change while a driver is bound
> > (dev_dax_resize returns -EBUSY if dev->driver is set). Caching the size
> > at probe time allows fsdev's direct_access path can use it without
> > acquiring dax_dev_rwsem (which isn't exported anyway).
> >
>
> None of the above explains exactly why this code is needed. Rather it
> just explains what it does.
>
> I'm not 100% clear on why this is needed in the driver and why this is not
> a layering violation which is going to bite us later?
I'll update the description to make it clear.
But basically: this is the stuff that xfs uses in /dev/pmem when it's in
fs-dax mode, to to resolve read/write to a memcpy variant, and to handle
faults via dax_iomap_fault() (which lets famfs resolve (file, offset) to
(daxdev, offset), and then dax finishes the job by resolving to PFN (or HPA -
whatever).
So for famfs to support file read/write/mmap on a devdax backing device,
this is the necessary glue.
Next patch version (v8) will make this more clear.
Thanks Ira!
John
[snip]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-18 0:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20260118222911.92214-1-john@jagalactic.com>
2026-01-18 22:29 ` [PATCH BUNDLE v7] famfs: Fabric-Attached Memory File System John Groves
2026-01-18 22:30 ` [PATCH V7 00/19] famfs: port into fuse John Groves
2026-01-18 22:31 ` [PATCH V7 01/19] dax: move dax_pgoff_to_phys from [drivers/dax/] device.c to bus.c John Groves
2026-02-11 14:23 ` Ira Weiny
2026-02-18 23:00 ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-18 22:31 ` [PATCH V7 02/19] dax: Factor out dax_folio_reset_order() helper John Groves
2026-02-13 21:24 ` Ira Weiny
2026-02-18 23:04 ` Dave Jiang
2026-02-24 3:00 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-03-02 15:06 ` John Groves
2026-03-09 6:27 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-18 22:31 ` [PATCH V7 03/19] dax: add fsdev.c driver for fs-dax on character dax John Groves
2026-02-13 21:05 ` Ira Weiny
2026-02-17 17:56 ` John Groves
2026-03-19 15:11 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-18 22:31 ` [PATCH V7 04/19] dax: Save the kva from memremap John Groves
2026-02-13 21:23 ` Ira Weiny
2026-02-18 23:33 ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-18 22:31 ` [PATCH V7 05/19] dax: Add dax_operations for use by fs-dax on fsdev dax John Groves
2026-02-13 21:23 ` Ira Weiny
2026-02-18 0:38 ` John Groves
2026-02-14 16:10 ` Ira Weiny
2026-02-18 0:49 ` John Groves [this message]
2026-01-18 22:32 ` [PATCH V7 06/19] dax: Add dax_set_ops() for setting dax_operations at bind time John Groves
2026-02-19 15:41 ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-18 22:32 ` [PATCH V7 07/19] dax: Add fs_dax_get() func to prepare dax for fs-dax usage John Groves
2026-02-19 16:07 ` Dave Jiang
2026-02-26 23:20 ` John Groves
2026-01-18 22:32 ` [PATCH V7 08/19] dax: export dax_dev_get() John Groves
2026-02-19 16:18 ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-18 22:32 ` [PATCH V7 09/19] famfs_fuse: magic.h: Add famfs magic numbers John Groves
2026-02-19 16:21 ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-18 22:32 ` [PATCH V7 10/19] famfs_fuse: Update macro s/FUSE_IS_DAX/FUSE_IS_VIRTIO_DAX/ John Groves
2026-02-19 16:33 ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-18 22:32 ` [PATCH V7 11/19] famfs_fuse: Basic fuse kernel ABI enablement for famfs John Groves
2026-02-19 16:57 ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-18 22:33 ` [PATCH V7 12/19] famfs_fuse: Plumb the GET_FMAP message/response John Groves
2026-02-19 17:12 ` Dave Jiang
2026-02-26 0:24 ` John Groves
2026-01-18 22:33 ` [PATCH V7 13/19] famfs_fuse: Create files with famfs fmaps John Groves
2026-02-19 18:31 ` Dave Jiang
2026-02-25 21:30 ` John Groves
2026-01-18 22:33 ` [PATCH V7 14/19] famfs_fuse: GET_DAXDEV message and daxdev_table John Groves
2026-02-19 18:51 ` Dave Jiang
2026-02-25 23:51 ` John Groves
2026-01-18 22:33 ` [PATCH V7 15/19] famfs_fuse: Plumb dax iomap and fuse read/write/mmap John Groves
2026-01-18 22:33 ` [PATCH V7 16/19] famfs_fuse: Add holder_operations for dax notify_failure() John Groves
2026-01-18 22:33 ` [PATCH V7 17/19] famfs_fuse: Add DAX address_space_operations with noop_dirty_folio John Groves
2026-01-30 23:13 ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-18 22:34 ` [PATCH V7 18/19] famfs_fuse: Add famfs fmap metadata documentation John Groves
2026-02-19 20:22 ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-18 22:34 ` [PATCH V7 19/19] famfs_fuse: Add documentation John Groves
2026-02-19 21:39 ` Dave Jiang
2026-02-26 0:29 ` John Groves
2026-01-18 22:34 ` [PATCH V7 0/3] libfuse: add basic famfs support to libfuse John Groves
2026-01-18 22:35 ` [PATCH V7 1/3] fuse_kernel.h: bring up to baseline 6.19 John Groves
2026-01-30 22:53 ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-31 0:41 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-31 1:18 ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-18 22:35 ` [PATCH V7 2/3] fuse_kernel.h: add famfs DAX fmap protocol definitions John Groves
2026-01-18 22:35 ` [PATCH V7 3/3] fuse: add famfs DAX fmap support John Groves
2026-01-18 22:36 ` [PATCH V4 0/2] ndctl: Add daxctl support for the new "famfs" mode of devdax John Groves
2026-01-18 22:36 ` [PATCH V4 1/2] daxctl: Add support for famfs mode John Groves
2026-02-19 21:47 ` Dave Jiang
2026-02-27 2:00 ` Alison Schofield
2026-01-18 22:36 ` [PATCH V4 2/2] Add test/daxctl-famfs.sh to test famfs mode transitions: John Groves
2026-02-19 22:02 ` Dave Jiang
2026-01-20 17:01 ` [PATCH V4 0/2] ndctl: Add daxctl support for the new "famfs" mode of devdax Alireza Sanaee
2026-01-20 17:05 ` John Groves
2026-02-09 23:13 ` Alison Schofield
2026-02-11 14:31 ` John Groves
2026-01-20 9:12 ` [PATCH BUNDLE v7] famfs: Fabric-Attached Memory File System Alireza Sanaee
2026-01-20 15:13 ` John Groves
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