From: Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>
To: Christian Schoenebeck <linux_oss@crudebyte.com>
Cc: v9fs@lists.linux.dev, Remi Pommarel <repk@triplefau.lt>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@kernel.org>,
Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@ionkov.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/4] 9p: Add mount option for negative dentry cache retention
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2026 06:45:35 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aadWf2Ox2YXdy0Yl@codewreck.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4490625.ejJDZkT8p0@weasel>
Christian Schoenebeck wrote on Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 03:53:47PM +0100:
> > + fsparam_string ("source", Opt_source),
> > + fsparam_u32hex ("debug", Opt_debug),
> > + fsparam_uid ("dfltuid", Opt_dfltuid),
> > + fsparam_gid ("dfltgid", Opt_dfltgid),
> > + fsparam_u32 ("afid", Opt_afid),
> > + fsparam_string ("uname", Opt_uname),
> > + fsparam_string ("aname", Opt_remotename),
> > + fsparam_flag ("nodevmap", Opt_nodevmap),
> > + fsparam_flag ("noxattr", Opt_noxattr),
> > + fsparam_flag ("directio", Opt_directio),
> > + fsparam_flag ("ignoreqv", Opt_ignoreqv),
> > + fsparam_string ("cache", Opt_cache),
> > + fsparam_string ("cachetag", Opt_cachetag),
> > + fsparam_string ("access", Opt_access),
> > + fsparam_flag ("posixacl", Opt_posixacl),
> > + fsparam_u32 ("locktimeout", Opt_locktimeout),
> > + fsparam_flag ("ndentrycache", Opt_ndentrycache),
> > + fsparam_u32 ("ndentrycache", Opt_ndentrycachetmo),
>
> That double entry is surprising. So this mount option is supposed to be used
> like ndentrycache=n for a specific timeout value (in ms) and just ndentrycache
> (without any assignment) for infinite timeout. That's a bit weird.
Could make it a s32 and say <0 means infinite? I think we have that
somewhere
> Documentation/filesystems/9p.rst should be updated as well BTW.
>
> Nevertheless, like mentioned before, I really think the string "timeout"
> should be used, at least in a user visible mount option. Keep in mind that
> timeouts are a common issue to look at, so it is common to just grep for
> "timeout" in a code base or documentation. An abbrevation like "tmo" or
> leaving it out entirely is for me therefore IMHO inappropriate.
>
> You found "ndentrycachetimeout" too horribly long, or was that again just
> motivated by the code indention below? I personally find those indention
> alignments completely irrelevant, not sure how Dominique sees that.
> Personally I avoid them, as they cost unnecessary time on git blame.
I rarely use blame at all and it's possible to ignore whitespaces for
blame, but I'd tend to agree here, I don't care if this stays aligned.
OTOH ndentrycachetimeout as a mount option is a mouthful,
negativetimeout or negtimeout sounds clear enough to me?
I can't think of anything else that'd be negative related
to timeouts, but perhaps it's the lack of sleep speaking
--
Dominique Martinet | Asmadeus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-03 21:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-27 7:56 [PATCH v3 0/4] 9p: Performance improvements for build workloads Remi Pommarel
2026-02-27 7:56 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] 9p: Cache negative dentries for lookup performance Remi Pommarel
2026-03-04 12:50 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2026-02-27 7:56 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] 9p: Add mount option for negative dentry cache retention Remi Pommarel
2026-03-03 14:53 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2026-03-03 21:45 ` Dominique Martinet [this message]
2026-03-04 8:25 ` Remi Pommarel
2026-03-04 9:01 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2026-03-04 9:16 ` Dominique Martinet
2026-03-04 12:45 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2026-02-27 7:56 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] 9p: Set default negative dentry retention time for cache=loose Remi Pommarel
2026-03-04 12:54 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2026-02-27 7:56 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] 9p: Enable symlink caching in page cache Remi Pommarel
2026-03-04 13:01 ` Christian Schoenebeck
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