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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
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	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@suse.cz>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Jake Edge <jake@lwn.net>,
	David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	Askar Safin <safinaskar@zohomail.com>,
	Gabriele Paoloni <gpaoloni@redhat.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] kernel/api: introduce kernel API specification framework
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 10:53:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abq8W0jDtwgSsUdT@laps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260318070055.39f1af80@foz.lan>

On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 07:00:55AM +0100, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 11:49:27 -0600
>Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:
>> So the reason for two completely separate mechanisms is not entirely
>> clear to me.  The kerneldoc variant is essentially documentation, while
>> the macro stuff is to be built into the executable?  What if you want
>> both?
>
>You can easily add support at kernel-doc to output such macros.
>
>All you need is to create a new class derived from OutputFormat and
>make it produce any different output format, including:
>
>    #include <linux/kernel_api_spec.h>
>
>    DEFINE_KERNEL_API_SPEC(sys_open)
>    KAPI_DESCRIPTION("Open or create a file")
>    KAPI_CONTEXT(KAPI_CTX_PROCESS | KAPI_CTX_SLEEPABLE)
>    /* ... parameter, error, constraint definitions ... */
>    KAPI_END_SPEC
>
>I'd say that converting from such output to `.kapi_specs`` ELF section
>itself and/or to sysfs/debugfs - e.g. something that would require to
>compile or be linked with Kernel's compiled binaries should be done by a
>separate tool, but we should aim to have a singe tool to process
>kernel documentation markups.
>
>It is hard enough to maintain just one tool - and to have people actually
>writing documentation. Having a second one to handle it, with a different
>format will likely increase a lot the documentation burden.

So this is exactly what happens under the hood :) kerneldoc outputs these
macros and they get compiled ito the binary.

I exposed the macros as an option since they're there anyway, but I'm happy to
hide them as internal plumbing too.

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-18 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-13 15:09 [PATCH 0/9] Kernel API Specification Framework Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 1/9] kernel/api: introduce kernel API specification framework Sasha Levin
2026-03-17 17:49   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-03-18  6:00     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-03-18 14:53       ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2026-03-18 14:30     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-18 16:50       ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-03-18 14:32     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-18 16:51       ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 2/9] kernel/api: enable kerneldoc-based API specifications Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 3/9] kernel/api: add debugfs interface for kernel " Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-13 16:27     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 4/9] tools/kapi: Add kernel API specification extraction tool Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 5/9] kernel/api: add API specification for sys_open Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:33   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-13 16:42     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-17 18:37       ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-03-18 14:12         ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-18 14:16           ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 6/9] kernel/api: add API specification for sys_close Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:49   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-13 16:46     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:52   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-13 16:55     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 7/9] kernel/api: add API specification for sys_read Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 8/9] kernel/api: add API specification for sys_write Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 9/9] kernel/api: add runtime verification selftest Sasha Levin
2026-03-14 18:18 ` [PATCH 0/9] Kernel API Specification Framework Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-14 22:44   ` David Laight
2026-03-15  6:46     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-15  6:36   ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-18  6:24     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-03-18 14:14       ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-16  7:05   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-03-16 22:57     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-16 23:29       ` Sasha Levin

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