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From: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Frederick Mayle <fmayle@google.com>,
	 Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-hotfixses] Revert "mm: limit filemap_fault readahead to VMA boundaries"
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2026 20:26:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajWXEn7gECvgG7F5@pedro-suse.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpHF1qtpHZQzLmLi7xz06OWgBfduHqBHF_-0Vkx7OtBmcw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 10:52:07AM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 10:46 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 10:43:06AM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > > Yeah, the mmap usage on SVT-AV1 is a little suspicious, but I guess the
> > > > pattern may come up time and time again for people doing chunked mmap
> > > > reads. I think we need to take a closer look at this change.
> > >
> > > Frame-by-frame mmapping for a streaming workoad is quite questionable
> > > IMHO and I don't think we should be optimizing or encouraging such
> > > usage, but I understand the reasoning for the revert.
> >
> > If userspace is properly tuned, it doesn't need automatic readahead
> > at all; it can disable it and issue manual readaheads.  The point of
> > automatic readahead is to cope with userspace which is doing stupid
> > things like calling read() for a single byte at a time.
> >
> > Could it have better defaults?  Maybe!  It's worth a try.  But those
> > attempts need to have a very low bar for reversion when it turns out
> > they affect other workloads.
> 
> That what I meant in the last part of my reply :)
> 
> But in general, I think that benchmark measuring "how many frames per
> second a CPU can encode" should be revised so it doesn't depend on
> file prefetching mechanisms. Otherwise it's measuring something else.

To be clear, that's not (necessarily) a benchmark, the code we were
looking at is their encoder app.

(it's also generally not possible to prefetch the whole thing into RAM
because, well, raw video files are quite large)

-- 
Pedro

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-19 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-19 11:28 [PATCH mm-hotfixses] Revert "mm: limit filemap_fault readahead to VMA boundaries" Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-19 11:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-19 11:58 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-19 15:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-19 16:37 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-19 16:52   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-19 17:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-19 17:08       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-19 17:18       ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-19 17:43         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-19 17:46           ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-19 17:52             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-19 19:26               ` Pedro Falcato [this message]
2026-06-19 19:33                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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