From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
oleg@redhat.com, josh@joshtriplett.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
jlayton@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] fs/pipe: unify the page pools into a single per-pipe pool
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2026 05:09:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ak4rSEAwV-RoG1MO@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGudoHFGFJZ_j-osEKnLvGYGai+SKVAJKy8B_PChWms7SN7xoA@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 05:29:20PM +0200, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 5:05 PM Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org> wrote:
> >
> > TL;DR: This simplifies the pipe code, unify the page pools, reduce the
> > code by 9 lines (not counting comments), and no regressions are seen in
> > terms of performance.
> >
>
> This adds an additional acquire + release cycle on the mutex for every
> write which preallocates, so I don't see how that's supposed to *not*
> slow things down in some capacity.
Thanks a lot for the benchmark and the numbers -- a write-heavy pipe
workload with the reader and writer on separate CPUs is exactly the case
I wanted to make sure doesn't regress.
I double-checked it again with your test on different setups and page sizes I
don't see the regression you are seeing: the bare-metal numbers are
flat-to-positive at your size.
I couldn't get my hands on a Sapphire Rapids box easily, so the bare-metal runs
are on a Cooper Lake Xeon (the same class I used for the cover letter) and
NVIDIA Grace (arm64). Both hosts are completely idle.
1) X86 test
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8321HC @ 1.40GHz (Cooper Lake)
1 socket / 26 cores / 2 threads = 52 CPUs
L3 35.8 MiB (1 instance), single NUMA node (0-51)
max freq == base 1.40GHz (no turbo), so the clock is steady
Bare metal, Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8321HC, your pipen.c
(writer on CPU0, reader on CPU1 -- separate physical cores, same
socket, shared L3), blocking pipe, 12 x 8s per point, median MB/s:
PIPEN_SIZE baseline patched delta
4096 2658 2531 -4.8% (noise?)
32678 3517 3527 +0.3% (your size -- flat)
65536 3072 3358 +9.3%
4096 is a single-page write that barely touches the pool; the swing
there is inside the run-to-run variance (sd ~100 MB/s on a ~2600
median), so I read it as neutral, not a regression. At 32678/65536
the variance is small (sd 18-58 MB/s), so those deltas are real.
2) Arm64 test:
Machine / build:
- NVIDIA Grace (Neoverse-V2), 72 cores, 1 socket, no SMT,
single NUMA node, ~256 GB RAM
- Kernel using 64k pages.
Results (baseline vs patched):
PIPEN_SIZE pages baseline patched delta regime
65536 1 17759 17683 -0.4% want=1 → pool covers it, NO extra lock (no-op)
131072 2 17583 19734 +12.2% prefill + extra lock taken
262144 4 18781 21017 +11.9% prefill + extra lock taken
524288 8 19061 20886 +9.6% = pool max; == Similar to Guzik's 32678 (8 pages)
1048576 16 16842 17110 +1.6% pool overflows; == Guzik's 65536 (16 pages)
Both tests with:
Kernel: linux-next 20260623 base, production .config
(no KASAN / LOCKDEP / DEBUG_* / nothing useless), baseline vs the
full series, both built with clang, coexisting in grub
Test: your will-it-scale test (pipen.c), PIPEN_SIZE=32678, -t 2
(1 writer + 1 reader on separate cores);
performance governor, writer and reader pinned to two cores
You're right that there is an extra lock/unlock in the prefill path, so
I don't want to wave your result away -- may it be specific to SPR's
topology/cache?
I'll also keep trying to grab a Sapphire Rapids machine so I can run your
will-it-scale case directly on the same uarch, and check if I can reproduce
it..
Thanks,
--breno
~
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-08 12:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-07 15:04 [PATCH v2 0/4] fs/pipe: unify the page pools into a single per-pipe pool Breno Leitao
2026-07-07 15:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] fs/pipe: move the prealloc pool to per-pipe infrastructure Breno Leitao
2026-07-07 15:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] fs/pipe: add per-pipe pool push, prefill and trim helpers Breno Leitao
2026-07-07 15:05 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] fs/pipe: switch the read and write paths to the per-pipe pool Breno Leitao
2026-07-07 15:05 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] fs/pipe: remove the old on-stack prealloc helpers and tmp_page[2] Breno Leitao
2026-07-07 15:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] fs/pipe: unify the page pools into a single per-pipe pool Mateusz Guzik
2026-07-08 12:09 ` Breno Leitao [this message]
2026-07-08 13:18 ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-07-08 15:11 ` Breno Leitao
2026-07-08 15:24 ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-07-08 15:54 ` Breno Leitao
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