From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9A0930D412; Thu, 2 Jul 2026 15:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1783005664; cv=none; b=s3xu5umQUwRj5UQhRZnQePRz8FxWCKn6wuIOB1/omiMLniqmuBIMM7iMcojCq4w6+bW2fd3UZU6nTa9fynxsXWApkMdpDcNNuiR/VjES+/UMcywt17OgZMDISsGdkL/RH6cwPlMHGrLch8phEjUA9km7klTxz5Yizxm1B6b0eK4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1783005664; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Kz5o8QJa9jCxOSgCBQvgpSigN0xge/+Plz3MRN7FduE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=HCX2SJLJOFUJa0q3aXcYLLogMh0Z5R0J6SXL4HxMS39+yHLkeMnAtQf/uidWFMgVP6dPWt/xkUKd/z4YKURX6+9EPs9v/fXIGfAUMg9b+vuvnjkhdaFy2GqTzs3/hCKN9arPqbrxAWjcqVrV40AnmbXZlXiTXIrD+W19BiGfZxQ= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=bFvZv1JG; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="bFvZv1JG" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6FF291F000E9; Thu, 2 Jul 2026 15:20:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1783005663; bh=l77JKH1NL88mDH7eB/BSPrbbZcvcz3qbT1vKBW6LY4c=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=bFvZv1JG15f+XAaC5QEVXnhWT02ocMA4d6Kfk+b6xXeGzz8O5a7n3vpeCPoBO5QrP 5YMigiDSTXqLsBNa0zgRNF/zBlgVNsL4qmER4EpU4yHWzGJsHNbHFjYTFtQ6lSgxqT re3ATYjGmVraSfNIhdKCGHc7CajKw2EMy9zgHfjjbfegnjaTD8aXDoJeZ153QSyDF7 LiOBdDT6CVVBQKIMf2TOCSJ6KMMfF+UbQTY8B86SlfCn8OY2mb0CnG4h8lMYIC5qoa XONQmrr5nBdnZrr/33W0SXk8Q7+zQpQPJ1K9w6zYhpXthKNV2a3F2Jcaz64GrBxFCD FeLs+riDjE13Q== Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2026 16:20:51 +0100 From: Lorenzo Stoakes To: Jonathan Corbet Cc: Greg KH , Jeff Layton , Linus Torvalds , Justin Stitt , Laurent Pinchart , Carlos Maiolino , Jakub Kicinski , Jori Koolstra , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Brian Foster , Christoph Hellwig , David Disseldorp , Mark Brown , Jani Nikula , Jens Axboe , David Hildenbrand , Vlastimil Babka , "Christian Brauner (Amutable)" , workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution Message-ID: References: <20260702-aidoc-v1-1-735572dfb995@kernel.org> <2026070224-unholy-commode-cf45@gregkh> <87cxx5l900.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87cxx5l900.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 09:13:51AM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > Greg KH writes: > > > On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 10:32:48AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > >> We've had this requirement in place in the Documentation for several > >> months, but it's becoming clear that the signal to noise ratio from this > >> is quite low. > >> > >> 1/ It's not universally followed. While many people do try to attribute > >> the LLMs in good faith, not everyone does for various reasons. > > > > Then let's move to get people to follow it. > > FWIW, in my experience, simple ignorance of the rules is one of the > biggest reasons why so many people fail to follow them. When I've asked > docs contributors about the source of their work, they tend to come > clean, apologize, and add the tags going forward. I also feel that repeatedly establishing boundaries like this (in as civil and reasonable way as possible) can help establish the 'done thing'. We will probably still experience a great deal of unattributed patches, and I think over time we'll have to figure out a way to deal with that, but there's certainly a cohort who can be reached, and it's beneficial to do so. It also makes it easier to enforce with those who don't play nice - 'here are the rules, look over here, and look at these patches' etc. With no rules at all it becomes far harder to enforce anything. > > jon Thanks, Lorenzo