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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Jori Koolstra <jkoolstra@xs4all.nl>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	 Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	 Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Disseldorp <ddiss@suse.de>,
	 Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	 Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Christian Brauner (Amutable)" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	 workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2026 16:37:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akaFlAPtMumfPv3G@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <128935557.3798727.1783006392991@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl>

On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 05:33:12PM +0200, Jori Koolstra wrote:
>
> > Op 02-07-2026 17:07 CEST schreef Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 10:32:48AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > We've had this requirement in place in the Documentation for several
> > > months, but it's becoming clear that the signal to noise ratio from this
> > > is quite low.
> > >
> > > 1/ It's not universally followed. While many people do try to attribute
> > > the LLMs in good faith, not everyone does for various reasons.
> >
> > Then let's move to get people to follow it.
> >
> > > 2/ It basically serves as free advertising for proprietary LLM companies.
> >
> > Who cares, make up a name, all I want is the "signal" that someone is
> > using a LLM so that I can review it as-such.  And if I think someone is
> > not reporting that, I can ask for them to properly attribute it and if
> > they lie, well, that's on them.
> >
> > > 3/ It's not clear why we want to collect this info in the first place.
> >
> > We want to know if a LLM is being used.
> >
> > > Given that the data this provides is flawed at best and is being
> > > collected for a purpose that isn't clear, let's just kill the
> > > requirement for these tags from the kernel at large.
> >
> > No, please do not do this.  It's useful already for many patches in my
> > subsystems, and is only going to be used more in the future.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > greg k-h
>
> Why not:
>
> Keep the tag like David suggested as:
>
> Assisted-by: LLM # automated removal of useless blabla
>
> I am indifferent to whether this should be a tag or just below the --- .
>
> And add something like the systemd guidelines that Christian linked to to the
> AI Coding Assistants doc page. This provides much more useful guidelines than
> what is currently there. I triggered this whole discussion by reading the page
> and adding the model to some clean-up commits, so some people do read it...

Yup am fine with all that!

>
> Best,
> Jori.

Thanks, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-02 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-02 14:32 [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 14:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 14:58   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:02   ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 15:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 14:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:28   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:36     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:44       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:07 ` Greg KH
2026-07-02 15:13   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-07-02 15:20     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 18:46     ` Andreas Dilger
2026-07-03  2:57       ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-03 11:50         ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-03 16:12         ` Andreas Dilger
2026-07-02 15:15   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:33   ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 15:37     ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-07-02 15:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:57   ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 16:13     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 16:19       ` Greg KH
2026-07-02 16:32         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03  6:37           ` Greg KH
2026-07-03  7:23             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03  7:30               ` Greg KH
2026-07-03  7:33                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 11:42                 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-03 11:53                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03 12:04                   ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 16:48         ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 16:50           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 21:17             ` Boris Burkov
2026-07-02 23:17               ` SJ Park
2026-07-03  7:05               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 13:12                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-03 16:32                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03 18:22                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 18:26                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 23:05             ` SJ Park
2026-07-02 16:11 ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-02 16:14   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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