From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, hch@infradead.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, adilger@sun.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] O_NOACC: open without any access
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:34:49 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906231019250.3240@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17310.1245776720@redhat.com>
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, David Howells wrote:
> Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
>
> > Define O_NOACC as 3. On open(..., O_FILESYSTEM | O_NOACC) require no
> > privileges on the file.
>
> It must also work with O_NOFOLLOW, which I think your suggestion will.
This does sound like a fairly natural extension of what we already do.
We essentially already have O_NOACCESS (3), and use it exactly because we
need to do operations on a file descriptor without "real" accesses
(notably things like accessing /dev/cdrom without waiting/checking for the
disk being present etc).
O_FILESYSTEM I don't like as a name (to me, it doesn't say _what_ it is
doing - of course an open works on a filesystem!), but the concept of
saying "don't follow device nodes - just open the node itself" makes
perfect sense. Together with O_NOFOLLOW it also fairly naturally means
"give me the actual symlink _node_, don't return error or follow it".
And we can trivially test at a higher level that O_FILESYSTEM (with a
better name, please), is always paired with O_NOACCESS (not O_NOACC: we do
not try to save three letters, there is no shortage). Because the raw node
obviously must never really be "accessed" (ie you can't do read/write etc
on it).
That said, I do _not_ like the notion of
> Add a new inode->i_filesystem_fop pointer
regardless of whether it's in inode->i_op or wherever. I think we should
just handle this in the regular "inode->f_op->open" routine, the same way
we handle FMODE_EXCLUSIVE (O_EXCL), FMODE_NDELAY (O_NONBLOCK) and lack of
access rights (O_NOACCESS) in the driver open routines that currently
handle those specially (O_NDELAY is spe
Al?
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-23 17:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-18 6:55 [RFC] O_NOACC: open without any access Miklos Szeredi
2009-06-23 13:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-23 14:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-06-23 14:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-23 15:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-06-23 15:52 ` David Howells
2009-06-23 16:06 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-23 16:10 ` David Howells
2009-06-23 16:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-06-23 16:33 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-23 17:05 ` David Howells
2009-06-23 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-06-23 20:04 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-06-24 10:53 ` Al Viro
2009-06-24 11:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-06-24 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-23 22:44 ` David Howells
2009-06-23 17:20 ` David Howells
2009-06-23 16:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-23 16:59 ` David Howells
2009-06-24 17:02 ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-06-24 18:06 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-06-24 18:34 ` Ulrich Drepper
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