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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Jaegeuk Hanse <jaegeuk.hanse@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Zheng Liu <wenqing.lz@taobao.com>,
	Jeff liu <jeff.liu@oracle.com>, Jim Meyering <jim@meyering.net>,
	Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Marco Stornelli <marco.stornelli@gmail.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@fusionio.com>,
	Sunil Mushran <sunil.mushran@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tmpfs: support SEEK_DATA and SEEK_HOLE (reprise)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:02:21 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1211281745200.1641@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121129012933.GA9112@kernel>

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Jaegeuk Hanse wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 05:22:03PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> >Revert 3.5's f21f8062201f ("tmpfs: revert SEEK_DATA and SEEK_HOLE")
> >to reinstate 4fb5ef089b28 ("tmpfs: support SEEK_DATA and SEEK_HOLE"),
> >with the intervening additional arg to generic_file_llseek_size().
> >
> >In 3.8, ext4 is expected to join btrfs, ocfs2 and xfs with proper
> >SEEK_DATA and SEEK_HOLE support; and a good case has now been made
> >for it on tmpfs, so let's join the party.
> >
> 
> Hi Hugh,
> 
> IIUC, several months ago you revert the patch. You said, 
> 
> "I don't know who actually uses SEEK_DATA or SEEK_HOLE, and whether it
> would be of any use to them on tmpfs.  This code adds 92 lines and 752
> bytes on x86_64 - is that bloat or worthwhile?"

YUC.

> 
> But this time in which scenario will use it?

I was not very convinced by the grep argument from Jim and Paul:
that seemed to be grep holding on to a no-arbitrary-limits dogma,
at the expense of its users, causing an absurd line-length issue,
which use of SEEK_DATA happens to avoid in some cases.

The cp of sparse files from Jeff and Dave was more convincing;
but I still didn't see why little old tmpfs needed to be ahead
of the pack.

But at LinuxCon/Plumbers in San Diego in August, a more convincing
case was made: I was hoping you would not ask, because I did not take
notes, and cannot pass on the details - was it rpm building on tmpfs?
I was convinced enough to promise support on tmpfs when support on
ext4 goes in.

Hugh

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-29  2:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-29  1:22 [PATCH] tmpfs: support SEEK_DATA and SEEK_HOLE (reprise) Hugh Dickins
2012-11-29  1:29 ` Jaegeuk Hanse
2012-11-29  2:02   ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2012-11-29  4:15     ` Jim Meyering
2012-11-29  4:42       ` Jeff Liu
2012-11-29  6:53         ` Jim Meyering
2012-11-29  7:27           ` Jeff Liu
2012-11-29 19:52       ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-29 20:17         ` Jim Meyering
2012-11-29  2:44 ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-29  4:22   ` Hugh Dickins
2012-11-29 22:59 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-29 23:29   ` Hugh Dickins
2012-11-30  0:18     ` Andrew Morton

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