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From: michael chang <thenewme91@gmail.com>
To: Hifumi Hisashi <hifumi.hisashi@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: reiser@namesys.com, reiserfs-dev@namesys.com,
	reiserfs-list@namesys.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix problems related to journaling in Reiserfs
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:37:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b14e81f005083117377ee7556a@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43164523.7030301@lab.ntt.co.jp>

On 8/31/05, Hifumi Hisashi <hifumi.hisashi@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> michael chang wrote:
> 
> >Surely we don't want this.  Look at the papers on Namesys's websites,
> >about the atomicaty and the banking example.  But that's just my
> >personal opinion.  Besides, I believe it's more likely that usually
> >the power gets lost than the SCSI or IDE cable gets disconnected,
> >AFAIK...
> >
> >
>     A write()  syscall with the O_SYNC flag must ensure that not only
> file data block
> but also journal (meta-data update) are written to a disk when this
> syscall end.
>    But, current implementation of Reiserfs does not do that. If a system
> crashes,
> a filesystem recovers from the journal transaction log. But, Reiserfs
> may not
> recover in some cases.
>    I checked other filesystems like ext3, jfs, xfs. Those filesystem
> write transactions
> to a disk everytime  write()  with the O_SYNC is performed. In those
> filesystem,
> I have no trouble mentioned above.
> 
>   I should say, the Reiserfs would be "un"reliable filesystem..........

That said, AFAIK, Reiser(fs) 3.6 patches are somewhat redundant
(although if they solve a "problem", sure, go ahead) since this
funcationality should be present in Reiser4 in one form or another --
I don't know if Reiser3.6 is still "supported" per se, anyways.  But
don't bash on me -- I'm not subscribed to the reiserfs-dev nor
linux-fsdevel lists, so don't bash me for saying something I shouldn't
say otherwise (I don't see how removing these lists from the replies
would help, but if that is requested, let me know).

-- 
~Mike
 - Just my two cents
 - No man is an island, and no man is unable.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-01  0:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-31 12:39 [PATCH] fix problems related to journaling in Reiserfs Hifumi Hisashi
2005-08-31 13:42 ` michael chang
2005-09-01  0:02   ` Hifumi Hisashi
2005-09-01  0:37     ` michael chang [this message]
2005-09-01  3:30       ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-01  3:35 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-02  2:03   ` Chris Mason
2005-10-04  8:47     ` Hifumi Hisashi
2005-10-04 10:40       ` Hans Reiser

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