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From: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 17/29] arm64: implement PKEYS support
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 15:39:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b4f8b351-4c83-43b4-bfbe-8f67f3f56fb9@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zogmi1AogxHWlWWR@arm.com>

On 05/07/2024 18:59, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 02:01:35PM +0100, Joey Gouly wrote:
>> @@ -163,7 +182,8 @@ static inline pteval_t __phys_to_pte_val(phys_addr_t phys)
>>  #define pte_access_permitted_no_overlay(pte, write) \
>>  	(((pte_val(pte) & (PTE_VALID | PTE_USER)) == (PTE_VALID | PTE_USER)) && (!(write) || pte_write(pte)))
>>  #define pte_access_permitted(pte, write) \
>> -	pte_access_permitted_no_overlay(pte, write)
>> +	(pte_access_permitted_no_overlay(pte, write) && \
>> +	por_el0_allows_pkey(FIELD_GET(PTE_PO_IDX_MASK, pte_val(pte)), write, false))
> I'm still not entirely convinced on checking the keys during fast GUP
> but that's what x86 and powerpc do already, so I guess we'll follow the
> same ABI.

I've thought about this some more. In summary I don't think adding this
check to pte_access_permitted() is controversial, but we should decide
how POR_EL0 is set for kernel threads.

This change essentially means that fast GUP behaves like uaccess for
pages that are already present: in both cases POR_EL0 will be looked up
based on the POIndex of the page being accessed (by the hardware in the
uaccess case, and explicitly in the fast GUP case). Fast GUP always
operates on current->mm, so to me checking POR_EL0 in
pte_access_permitted() should be no more restrictive than a uaccess
check from a user perspective. In other words, POR_EL0 is checked when
the kernel accesses user memory on the user's behalf, whether through
uaccess or GUP.

It's also worth noting that the "slow" GUP path (which
get_user_pages_fast() falls back to if a page is missing) also checks
POR_EL0 by virtue of calling handle_mm_fault(), which in turn calls
arch_vma_access_permitted(). It would be pretty inconsistent for the
slow GUP path to do a pkey check but not the fast path. (That said, the
slow GUP path does not call arch_vma_access_permitted() if a page is
already present, so callers of get_user_pages() and similar will get
inconsistent checking. Not great, that may be worth fixing - but that's
clearly beyond the scope of this series.)

Now an interesting question is what happens with kernel threads that
access user memory, as is the case for the optional io_uring kernel
thread (IORING_SETUP_SQPOLL). The discussion above holds regardless of
the type of thread, so the sqpoll thread will have its POR_EL0 checked
when processing commands that involve uaccess or GUP. AFAICT, this
series does not have special handling for kernel threads w.r.t. POR_EL0,
which means that it is left unchanged when a new kernel thread is cloned
(create_io_thread() in the IORING_SETUP_SQPOLL case). The sqpoll thread
will therefore inherit POR_EL0 from the (user) thread that calls
io_uring_setup(). In other words, the sqpoll thread ends up with the
same view of user memory as that user thread - for instance if its
POR_EL0 prevents access to POIndex 1, then any I/O that the sqpoll
thread attempts on mappings with POIndex/pkey 1 will fail.

This behaviour seems potentially useful to me, as the io_uring SQ could
easily become a way to bypass POE without some restriction. However, it
feels like this should be documented, as one should keep it in mind when
using pkeys, and there may well be other cases where kernel threads are
impacted by POR_EL0. I am also unsure how x86/ppc handle this.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-22 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-03 13:01 [PATCH v4 00/29] arm64: Permission Overlay Extension Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 01/29] powerpc/mm: add ARCH_PKEY_BITS to Kconfig Joey Gouly
2024-05-06  8:57   ` Michael Ellerman
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 02/29] x86/mm: " Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 16:40   ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 03/29] mm: use ARCH_PKEY_BITS to define VM_PKEY_BITN Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 16:41   ` Dave Hansen
2024-07-15  7:53   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 04/29] arm64: disable trapping of POR_EL0 to EL2 Joey Gouly
2024-07-15  7:47   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-25 15:44   ` Dave Martin
2024-08-06 10:04     ` Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 05/29] arm64: cpufeature: add Permission Overlay Extension cpucap Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 16:58   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-06-21 17:01   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-06-21 17:02     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-15  7:47   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 06/29] arm64: context switch POR_EL0 register Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:03   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-06-21 17:07   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-15  8:27   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-16 13:21     ` Mark Brown
2024-07-18 14:16     ` Joey Gouly
2024-07-22 13:40   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-07-25 15:46   ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 07/29] KVM: arm64: Save/restore POE registers Joey Gouly
2024-05-29 15:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-08-16 14:55   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-08-16 15:13     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-16 15:32       ` Marc Zyngier
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 08/29] KVM: arm64: make kvm_at() take an OP_AT_* Joey Gouly
2024-05-29 15:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-07-15  8:36   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 09/29] KVM: arm64: use `at s1e1a` for POE Joey Gouly
2024-05-29 15:50   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-07-15  8:45   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 10/29] arm64: enable the Permission Overlay Extension for EL0 Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:04   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-15  9:13   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-15 20:16   ` Mark Brown
2024-07-25 15:49   ` Dave Martin
2024-08-01 16:04     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-01 16:31       ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 11/29] arm64: re-order MTE VM_ flags Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:04   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-15  9:21   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 12/29] arm64: add POIndex defines Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:05   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-15  9:26   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 13/29] arm64: convert protection key into vm_flags and pgprot values Joey Gouly
2024-05-28  6:54   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2024-06-19 16:45     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-04 12:47       ` Joey Gouly
2024-07-08 17:22         ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-16  9:05   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-16  9:34     ` Joey Gouly
2024-07-25 15:49   ` Dave Martin
2024-08-01 10:55     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-01 11:01       ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 14/29] arm64: mask out POIndex when modifying a PTE Joey Gouly
2024-07-16  9:10   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 15/29] arm64: handle PKEY/POE faults Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 16:57   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-09 13:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-07-16 10:13   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-25 15:57   ` Dave Martin
2024-08-01 16:01     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-06 13:33       ` Dave Martin
2024-08-06 13:43         ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-06 14:38           ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 16/29] arm64: add pte_access_permitted_no_overlay() Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:15   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-16 10:21   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 17/29] arm64: implement PKEYS support Joey Gouly
2024-05-28  6:55   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2024-05-28 11:26     ` Joey Gouly
2024-05-31 14:57   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-05-31 15:21     ` Joey Gouly
2024-05-31 16:27       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-06-17 13:40         ` Florian Weimer
2024-06-17 14:51           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-07-08 17:53             ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-09  8:32               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-07-09  8:52                 ` Florian Weimer
2024-07-11  9:50               ` Joey Gouly
2024-07-18 14:45                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-07-05 16:59   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-22 13:39     ` Kevin Brodsky [this message]
2024-07-09 13:07   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-07-16 11:40     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-23  4:22   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-25 16:12   ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 18/29] arm64: add POE signal support Joey Gouly
2024-05-28  6:56   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2024-05-31 16:39     ` Mark Brown
2024-06-03  9:21       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2024-07-25 15:58         ` Dave Martin
2024-07-25 18:11           ` Mark Brown
2024-07-26 16:14             ` Dave Martin
2024-07-26 17:39               ` Mark Brown
2024-07-29 14:27                 ` Dave Martin
2024-07-29 14:41                   ` Mark Brown
2024-07-05 17:04   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-09 13:08   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-07-22  9:16   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-25 16:00   ` Dave Martin
2024-08-01 15:54     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-01 16:22       ` Dave Martin
2024-08-06 10:35         ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-06 14:31           ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-06 15:00             ` Dave Martin
2024-08-14 15:03             ` Catalin Marinas
2024-08-15 13:18               ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-15 15:09                 ` Dave Martin
2024-08-15 15:24                   ` Mark Brown
2024-08-19 17:09                   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-08-20  9:54                     ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-20 13:54                       ` Dave Martin
2024-08-20 14:06                         ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-20 14:45                           ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 19/29] arm64: enable PKEY support for CPUs with S1POE Joey Gouly
2024-07-16 10:47   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-25 15:48     ` Dave Martin
2024-07-25 16:00   ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 20/29] arm64: enable POE and PIE to coexist Joey Gouly
2024-06-21 17:16   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-16 10:41   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-07-16 13:46     ` Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 21/29] arm64/ptrace: add support for FEAT_POE Joey Gouly
2024-07-16 10:35   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 22/29] arm64: add Permission Overlay Extension Kconfig Joey Gouly
2024-07-05 17:05   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-09 13:08   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-07-16 11:02   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 23/29] kselftest/arm64: move get_header() Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 24/29] selftests: mm: move fpregs printing Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 25/29] selftests: mm: make protection_keys test work on arm64 Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 26/29] kselftest/arm64: add HWCAP test for FEAT_S1POE Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 27/29] kselftest/arm64: parse POE_MAGIC in a signal frame Joey Gouly
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 28/29] kselftest/arm64: Add test case for POR_EL0 signal frame records Joey Gouly
2024-05-29 15:51   ` Mark Brown
2024-07-05 19:34     ` Shuah Khan
2024-07-09 13:10   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-05-03 13:01 ` [PATCH v4 29/29] KVM: selftests: get-reg-list: add Permission Overlay registers Joey Gouly
2024-05-05 14:41 ` [PATCH v4 00/29] arm64: Permission Overlay Extension Mark Brown
2024-05-28 11:30 ` Joey Gouly

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